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To: Alamo-Girl
I need to go to bed A-G. Surrender yes, but much more than that is to join.

Show me a passage that says "loose yourself so that you no longer have an identity and are directly animated by me." Oh my, I sure wouldn't want a wife nor child like that. Darling lady, pick up your tasty cheeseburger and enjoy it with your Master and be glad for it with Him! To put it delicately, the husband wants a bride that will be engaged in love with him, not just let him do what he does with her. And the father wants to play catch, not have a target. ;-)

Why would God want emptied what He has regenerated? Why did he make people with wills, in His own image in the first place? -- Such a hideously costly thing for Jesus to pay for just see it all abandoned instead of enjoined.

Maybe you are into "quietism" A? Yes we need to be still and know... to listen and not offer the sacrifice of fools in the presence of the King, but beeeyooonnnnd that, we need to actively engage in a relationship with the one we were created for, having heard the King.

As for John he very willingly leaned his head on Jesus breast. That is what he wanted to do! And was the picture of motivation running to see the empty tomb. And listen to the passion and creative expression in his Epistles, not automatic writing. He is fully engaged as one actively given to and with His Savior. As for Paul, the words say that his heightened experiences with God were the heady stuff, not the strong impetus God chose him for, due to the vastness and arduousness of his mission. Thank God he didn't relent, but went to Rome.

As for Jesus, it was "for the joy set before him...!" -- "he will see his children and be satisfied...." He is the personification of the initiating God, and we are both responders and cooperators in the fulfillment of His mission.

Don't you dare spill out the identity He has bled to pour into you. ;-` Glorify God with the only thing you are: you. (He is him and needs no other.)
185 posted on 05/14/2003 12:15:05 AM PDT by unspun (Don't just eat the doughnut, appreciate the whole.)
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To: unspun
Darling lady, pick up your tasty cheeseburger and enjoy it with your Master

I had a hunch you were a bit odd--forgive me. But this last bit is such a gooey, coagulated, decompressed, and semi-ripened curd of a sentence that I nearly slipped on your point.

And I am such a skeptic. I am suspicious of myself. How did I manage to see through this drip?

A-G didn't. She's not dancing wid' ya.

194 posted on 05/14/2003 8:48:46 AM PDT by cornelis
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