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SARS may be here to stay say researchers (Not likely to weaken)
Ireland On-Line ^ | May 8, 2003

Posted on 05/08/2003 8:29:58 AM PDT by EternalHope

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A study showed that the virus behind Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome is not likely to mutate into a less dangerous form in the foreseeable future.

Looks like they did their homework on this one. SARS is unlikely to weaken in the short/medium term.

1 posted on 05/08/2003 8:29:58 AM PDT by EternalHope
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To: aristeides
Can you ping your list on this?
2 posted on 05/08/2003 8:31:05 AM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever.)
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Looks like they did their homework on this one. SARS is unlikely to weaken in the short/medium term.

I see no homework. I see groundless pontification for the sake of drumming up hysteria.

3 posted on 05/08/2003 8:33:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: EternalHope; CathyRyan; Mother Abigail; Dog Gone; Petronski; per loin; riri; flutters; ...
The researchers said it was likely the clinical deterioration seen in the second week after hospitalistion was due to an overblown immune response rather than uncontrolled spread of the virus.

So key would be muting the immune response. Explains why the serum is only effective early in the course of the disease.

4 posted on 05/08/2003 8:38:17 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: EternalHope
Bump...
5 posted on 05/08/2003 8:55:41 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: EternalHope
All the more so, that the scientists of the World should work together to come up with something SOON

This is going to be a global problem soon
6 posted on 05/08/2003 8:59:34 AM PDT by The Pheonix
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I see no homework. I see groundless pontification for the sake of drumming up hysteria.

Then you did not actually read the article.

7 posted on 05/08/2003 9:15:05 AM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever.)
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I agree. So far the research indicates at least four and possibly six forms of coronavirus are actively replicating. When they replicate add the DNA of other corona viruses. There is one report up that found 9 corona viruses of animal origin in the DNA including: rat viruses, a hog virus, a cat virus, a cattle virus, and a crazy camel virus. In short, a 'virus cocktail' if you will. Then their were traces of measel and mumps and other crazy viruses found.

Independent research points to a genetic experiment and accidental release.

But I do not want to shout too loudly about the prospect of genetic engineering. Yes, I might be considered to be wearing a 'tin foil hat' . . . But it is not firmly on my head today. Everything is supposition and conjecture when people are talking about origins and causes.

This is a very dangerous bug. Keep it in China !!

8 posted on 05/08/2003 9:19:51 AM PDT by ex-Texan (primates capitulards toujours en quete de fromage!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I agree. So far the research indicates at least four and possibly six forms of coronavirus are actively replicating. When they replicate add the DNA of other corona viruses. There is one report up that found 9 corona viruses of animal origin in the DNA including: rat viruses, a hog virus, a cat virus, a cattle virus, and a crazy camel virus. In short, a 'virus cocktail' if you will. Then their were traces of measel and mumps and other crazy viruses found.

Independent research points to a genetic experiment and accidental release.

But I do not want to shout too loudly about the prospect of genetic engineering. Yes, I might be considered to be wearing a 'tin foil hat' . . . But it is not firmly on my head today. Everything is supposition and conjecture when people are talking about origins and causes.

This is a very dangerous bug. Keep it in China !!

9 posted on 05/08/2003 9:21:45 AM PDT by ex-Texan (primates capitulards toujours en quete de fromage!)
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To: Thud
FYI
10 posted on 05/08/2003 9:29:27 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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I read this last night, under a chapter titled Bio Warfare and Genetic Manipulation. Thought provoking, IMO.

..it is not so much that scientists working with viral hybridizations were pushing nature in new directions when they ambarked on expirements in this field, but that they were following reactions that occurred in their laboratory. As J. Cookson and J. Nottingham note in their survey of Chemical and Biological Warfare, "It was observed (huebner, et al) that in tissue culture cross-infection with two different viruses may occur. This is not, by the way, evidence that such reactions occur naturally, since cultures in laboratories are highly artificial; yet it does indicate that the hybridizations do happen spontaneously. "As a result -of this combination- a virus that resembles one of the original viruses in it's protein coat (due to alterations in it's DNA) and also posseses characteristics of another virus may be produced. Such a virus could be potentially devestating to the host. Suppose a relatively benign virus to which the host was accustomed, which are tolerated by the human body, were combined with a more lethal viruse. Suppose further that it was the benign virus that provided the coat, hence the antigen markers through which the human immune system identifies intruders. Flagging this virus as an innocous character. The virus would be suitably disguised to the animal or plant it was infecting and so could wreak havoc unrecognized.

excerpted from AIDS A Second Opinion
Gary Null, Phd

11 posted on 05/08/2003 9:35:54 AM PDT by riri
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To: ex-Texan
There is one report up that found 9 corona viruses of animal origin in the DNA including: rat viruses, a hog virus, a cat virus, a cattle virus, and a crazy camel virus. In short, a 'virus cocktail' if you will. Then their were traces of measel and mumps and other crazy viruses found.

Independent research points to a genetic experiment and accidental release


If you plan to spread any new conspiracy about the origin of SARS, please check the basics first. You have been misinformed by someone

SARS coronavirus is a single positive-stranded RNA virus not a DNA virus. The other claims about is cocktail is as well incorrect. If you do not believe me check for yourself:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/viewer.fcgi?val=30275666
12 posted on 05/08/2003 9:45:40 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith
sorry, here is the link

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/viewer.fcgi?val=30275666
13 posted on 05/08/2003 9:48:02 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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Can you quote links or sources to substantiate your claims that SARS is bio-engineered and released

If you can prove that it is man-made, the Chinese would be keen to know, because, then they would suspect that that they are the victim of a bio-attack

If you cannot prove your allegement, plse be more responsible

Otherwise you may help to trigger off a BIO-WAR, is that fun????????
14 posted on 05/08/2003 9:58:29 AM PDT by The Pheonix
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To: riri
'Tis thought provoking, indeed. Here's hoping that's not what happened here.

The surprising delay we see in the production of detectable quantities of anti-bodies could be explained this way. However, I am not aware of any Coronavirus that is seen as benign by the body.
15 posted on 05/08/2003 10:01:34 AM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever.)
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To: EternalHope
I thought that too.

On the humorous side.

Out of Masks and scared of SARS? Try a bra

16 posted on 05/08/2003 10:25:05 AM PDT by riri
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WHO issues new SARS travel warning
17 posted on 05/08/2003 10:41:43 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: EternalHope
Free trade wil get you SARS
18 posted on 05/08/2003 11:48:26 AM PDT by follow the money
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To: AdmSmith
sorry, here is the link

I went to the link and it is gobbledy-gook... if there is someone who can restate the conclusion in simple layman's language it would be nice.. (It wasn't even in English...)

19 posted on 05/08/2003 12:04:26 PM PDT by First Amendment
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"GENEVA, Switzerland, May 8 (UPI) -- The World Health Organization advised Thursday that all but essential travel to Taipei in Taiwan, and to Inner Mongolia province and the Tianjin region of China, should be postponed due to continuing outbreaks of severe acute respiratory syndrome in these areas.

"The outbreaks are going on and increasing rapidly and we're not able to do the assessment to make sure these places are safe," said Dr. David Heymann, WHO's executive director for communicable diseases."

Doesn't look good at all!

20 posted on 05/08/2003 12:26:41 PM PDT by blam
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