Bush in Tight Spot With N.R.A. Over Gun Legislation

The New York Times ^ | 05/08/03 | ERIC LICHTBLAU

[Mulder]

I would say he is a hipcritical SOB if he said he did not support it now.

Nobody is saying he is a "h[y]pocrtical SOB".

The question at hand is does he support the Bill of Rights?

[TLBSHOW]

He said he will sign it during the election of 2000.

[fourdeuce82d]

If we can stop the renewal of the Ugly Weapon Ban, we will have, for the first time in 70 years, have rolled back some of the unconstitutional infringments that have been enacted over that period.

And if we lose the presidency, and the Rats get in charge, we'll see unconstitutional infringments rammed up our fundament. This is not the guy who renounced his NRA membership. We are more than holding our own- let's get another four years...and judgeships, and a strong majority in both houses...and then let's put the boot in where it will really hurt- elimination of the full auto tax, national CCW, etc..

I think we can and will win the next round- but let's make that win an "In your face" smackdown that give us the freedom to (through friendly supreme court rulings) not merely fight a delaying action, but cut off the head, burn the body, and feed the remnants to scrofulous pariah dogs.

[Mulder]

I must have fallen into my "way-back" machine and landed in an old thread about campaign finance reform legislation!

The ironic thing about CFR is now that the USSC has overturned much of it, the RAT candidate will be able to criticize Bush for signing such a flawed bill into law.

Their arguement will be that Bush wasn't serious about CFR since he failed to veto a blatantaly flawed bill. The RAT will say he should have vetoed it and forced Congress to pass a better bill-- one that would stand up in court.

[templar]

From reading the above posts it sounds like the liberal NY Times has done the job it set out to do. Divide and Conquer.

Meaning that it is the NY Times that will support and then sign an extention of the ban?

[RKV]

If the RATs pass any more unconstitutional infringements were exactly in the same position as we were on April 19th 1775.

[TLBSHOW]

George W. Bush
Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban


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[WilliamWallace1999]

It is ALL a moot issue. Tom Delay will NEVER let this out of the House. The Senate and the President can't do it alone. The law sunsets. Without a new law passed by both houses, the whole thing goes away.

Bush is a weasel on this issue. He knows he will never have to sign it, so it will be a dead issue by election, but he can seem independent of the gun lobby for the RINO's.

[Dane]

Their arguement will be that Bush wasn't serious about CFR since he failed to veto a blatantaly flawed bill. The RAT will say he should have vetoed it and forced Congress to pass a better bill-- one that would stand up in court

I'm sorry, but I picture you typing with your eyes rolling wildly. That has to one of the most ludicrous notions that I ever read on FR.

That's a new one, the demos will blame Bush for not vetoing a piece of legislation they fully supported.

[kcar]

I want it all. All of my freedoms - all of my income. I doan wanna hear the Republicans spout this Rats are worse BS. Makes you sound like Good Cop, but the Bad one is right here behind the curtain, pacing and clinching his fists. I want Jefferson and the Bill of Rights.

[fourdeuce82d]

Where else are we gonna go?

"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out right ban, picking up every one of them... "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, "I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here."

Diane Feinstein

Perot in '92, Nader in '00...gee, RKBA in '04?

An overwhelming victory will give us the opportunity to put a stake in the heart of these guys. A loss will put us in the hurt locker.

[Kevin Curry]

I am SICK of Bush counting on 'something'

You problem isn't with Bush. It is with the majority of your sissified fellow citizens who are easily frightened and stampeded by dark tales of vicious-looking guns. Many of them vote, too. You need to educate them. If you don't, you'll lose. You'll get a real no-kidding Democrat president who will appoint real no-kidding liberal justices to the Supreme Court who will finally render a definitive decision on the Second Amendment, and it won't be pretty. They will decide that there is no individual right for citizens to possess firearms of any kind and inform the government it has the power to confiscate any and all firearms it desires. What will you do then?

[Frohickey]

And, unfortunately, Rove's right. Where else are we gonna go?

Stay home on election day. Clean the rifles, put most of them in PVC pipes, and bury them, and write down the GPS coordinates.

[dead]

You're right, but only about the non-congressional rats.

Sharpton, Dean, and Edwards can crow, but Lieberman, Kerry, and Gephardt must be kicking themselves.

[cksharks]

They could care less. These one issue voters have blinders on.They are either stupid or brain dead or they did not vote for him the first time.If they did and knew that he said he supported this, why in hell did they vote for him in the first place? If the man tells you he is for or going to do something hang the hell on because he will do it . ASK IRAQ! He has proved to me that if he says shit stinks dont put your nose to the bag because you will get a bad smell.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

At issue is a measure to be introduced by Senate Democrats on Thursday to continue the ban.

Republicans can get USSC nominees past the front door, but Democrats snap their fingers and bills are going to get sent to the President?

This one is in Congress's court. If the Republicans don't pass it, Bush CAN'T sign it.

[dead]

An overwhelming victory will give us the opportunity to put a stake in the heart of these guys.

Yeah, I know. If only we can get control of the White House and both houses of congress... oh wait...

[RKV]

Reload and bury ammo, spare parts and cleaning supplies. Practice up with your scope at distance while you can. Make your will and make your peace.

[fourdeuce82d]

If the RATs pass any more unconstitutional infringements were exactly in the same position as we were on April 19th 1775

Or where we were when any of the other gun grabbing legislation was passed. Were you plinking cops when the first ugly gun ban was passed? Will you if it's extended?

We've got a war winning, tax cutting president in office. I (and I'm guessing you) already own Ugly Black Guns.

Want to give them up, or finally have to stand off the grabbers at gunpoint? Or get our guys in, convincingly, and turn this thing around?

[Mulder]

That's a new one, the demos will blame Bush for not vetoing a piece of legislation they fully supported.

That's exactly what they'll do.

Remember how they raked Bush I over the coals for breaking his "read my lips" promise?

The dems initiated the tax increase in Congress. They forced a gov't shutdown over the issue. And they got Bush to sign a bill, including the tax increase that the RATS voted for.

Then they criticisized him during the campaign for signing THEIR bill.