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Sheriff's task force to search cars in Milwaukee for guns
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 7 May 03 | Reid J. Epstein

Posted on 05/07/2003 5:51:01 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback

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To: Mr. Silverback
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181 posted on 05/20/2003 2:49:19 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: xm177e2
"... In other words, the officer asks, "will you give me consent to search your car, or should I arrest you on trumped-up driving charges and use that as an excuse to search your car?"

That must have been part of their 'extra 40 hours of Constitutional instruction'.

182 posted on 05/20/2003 2:52:30 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Chemist_Geek
You, of course , are correct in these examples.
I stand corrected.


I DO still ask the question "What rights are NOT restored after the completion of a full jail sentence AND parole other than the right to keep and bear arms?? Remember, I also believe that commision of a crime using a firearm should result in a 10-20 or more prison sentence with NO parole.
Jack
183 posted on 05/20/2003 10:10:11 PM PDT by btcusn
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To: Travis McGee
""BraveMan" indeed. More like "CringingSlave"."

Now, now, let's not call the wuss any names.
184 posted on 05/20/2003 11:18:40 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (If the 2nd is for hunting, is the 1st only for writing about hunting?)
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To: btcusn
I DO still ask the question "What rights are NOT restored after the completion of a full jail sentence AND parole other than the right to keep and bear arms?? Remember, I also believe that commision of a crime using a firearm should result in a 10-20 or more prison sentence with NO parole.

After a felon has completed all of their sentence, including any parole period, then I think that their suffrage is still lost as well as their firearm rights. There are also other prohibitions - some states prevent them from holding elective office, for example.

I don't believe that felons ought to automatically recover their civil rights. I do believe that they ought to have the opportunity, after a period of time (say 20 years) of squeaky-clean living in society, to have judicial review of that loss.

I agree with you that violent firearms crimes ought to have long certain prison terms.

185 posted on 05/21/2003 5:17:15 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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