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To: Lurking Libertarian
Many of us believe that God created us and that evolution is how He did it.

And many of us believe that God created us. Period. Evolution with God is a contradiction in terms. I don't believe in evolution, but I do believe in recognizing it for what it is, which is naturalistic (i.e. God free). You have to recognize that much to offer a fair critique.

74 posted on 05/06/2003 6:15:03 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: Lady Eileen
Evolution with God is a contradiction in terms. I don't believe in evolution, but I do believe in recognizing it for what it is, which is naturalistic (i.e. God free).

Do you believe that God makes the sun rise and set; that He makes the rain fall; that He makes the crops grow?

All of these things happen by "natural" causes, but God is the author of the laws of nature, and those laws are the means by which He accomplishes His will. So, too, did He create humanity, through "natural" processes that He created and set in motion, knowing they were sufficient to achieve His purpose.

76 posted on 05/06/2003 6:23:09 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lady Eileen
Evolution with God is a contradiction in terms.

Only for a very specific and restricted definition of "God". Intelligent people, however, realise that what you have set up is called a "false dichotomy", and thus invalid.

Not everyone who believes in a god (or a God) believes in one that has the exact attributes that you claim that it has. They are not atheists merely because they disagree with the exact nature of God.
77 posted on 05/06/2003 6:24:33 PM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: Lady Eileen
Boy, your god must be pretty limited then.

If god couldn't create you through evolution, then he is not a very strong god.

My god on the other hand, can do anything he wants to do, that includes starting the universe, creating the physical laws that bind it, and then allowing life to evolve from his original creation.

And science is discovering what a wonderous thing it is, evolution, microevolution, fossils, etc. etc, ad nauseum, the amount of life that my god created from just a few living cells is incredible. My god did some incredible things, and we haven't even scratched the surface yet. The more science discovers, the more wondrous my god becomes.

The more science discovers the more silly and limited your god sounds.

Sorry, but your god seems to be pretty limited.

I feel like putting some smart aleck comment in here, you know, some childish taunt about how my dad can beat up your dad, but I will let it pass. We're all grown ups here, right? Right?
83 posted on 05/06/2003 6:36:14 PM PDT by Aric2000 (Are you on Grampa Dave's team? I am!! $5 a month is all it takes, come join!!!)
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