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To: \/\/ayne
I forget if this excellent op-ed from the school's student paper got posted here:
There are essentially two types of proselytizers: those who argue with reason and those who argue with deceit. The former persuade with logic and sound premises, which they air openly and honestly. The latter persuade with trickery and misrepresentation, and attempt to undermine opposing arguments rather than seek affirmation of their own. It is this second species, the vulture of intellect, that will descend upon the McKale Center on May 10.

It is no small wonder that the event taking place that night — a debate on the topic of creation vs. evolution — is taking place on a university campus at all. ...


54 posted on 05/06/2003 5:00:54 PM PDT by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: jennyp
Nice fins JennyP, very nice find, and the woman is SOOO right.
78 posted on 05/06/2003 6:25:04 PM PDT by Aric2000 (Are you on Grampa Dave's team? I am!! $5 a month is all it takes, come join!!!)
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To: jennyp
From your link in #54:

The church was eventually contacted, however, by one willing participant: James McGaha, an astronomer and adjunct faculty member of Pima Community College. At first, the church accepted his offer, but weeks later reneged, citing a problem with McGaha’s “attitude.”

More likely, organizers realized they’d bitten off more than they could chew — or more accurately, more than their ringer, world-renowned creation “scientist” Duane Gish, could chew. McGaha had made a hobby of studying the formulaic and skewed debating tactics of Gish, who is a faculty member at the Institute for Creation Research in San Diego.

Very telling! The sponsoring church in no way intends to risk Gish getting the debunking that he deserves.

Creationists dream and drool at being able to spew lies rapidly, freely, in a forum with no way for anyone to expose them before everyone has gone home.

86 posted on 05/06/2003 6:38:00 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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