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I may be demanding too much precise attention to my wording -- if so, it's partly because I *try* to word myself precisely.

I depict the evolution-religionist as repeating, "There is no God who will judge me." Note the caps, and the qualifying phrase. I am not saying that they all say, "There is no god."

Not am I saying that they deny any god at all, but a specific God, the God of the Bible, who is the God who will judge them. They may be perfectly content to construct an idol, a "safe" god who is fatherly and loving and accepting, without any "edges" such as absolute demands of obedience to specific, unwelcome laws, particularly if coupled with the power and declared intent to enforce His demands.

I observe that the root of most blind devotion to evolutionism, particularly in those who feel compelled always to reply with quickdraw bile to even the suggestion of anything like Biblical creationism, in unthinking post after unthinking post, is moral and spiritual, not intellectual.

Because, plainly put, if Biblical creationism is true, then you are not your own god, nor am I; we are creatures. And there is such a God as the Bible depicts, and He will judge us.

And that makes a difference some here find personally terrifying.

Dan

And that makes a difference some here find personally terrifying.

I suppose it would be terrifying to believe in a God who punishes people for their thoughts. It may be rational to fear such a God, but how does it follow that He is good?

Not am I saying that they deny any god at all, but a specific God, the God of the Bible, who is the God who will judge them.

Well, you're assuming your conclusion, and you're ignoring the fact that there are people who claim to follow the God of the Bible, who believe that this God will be the judge of all and who believe that evolution is a viable theory.

Because, plainly put, if Biblical creationism is true, then you are not your own god, nor am I; we are creatures. And there is such a God as the Bible depicts, and He will judge us.

Given that Islam and Judaism use the same creation story, your "if Biblical creationism is true" actually implies at least three possibilities. Of course, I find it interesting that most creationists only present their version of Creationism as a possible alternative to evolution, even though there have been hundreds, if not thousands, of creation stories throughout human history. Why is yours so special that it receives exclusive consideration?

You're missing the point. The whole idea of individual liberty is rooted in rebellion, in the idea that "No one has the right to tell me what to do!". Evil began when Lucifer cried out his eternal non serviam to God in Heaven, and to this day human beings follow in his footsteps, refusing to submit their own wills to any authority.

Rebellion is pandemic in our society; everywhere, people cry out for freedom from Church, State, parents, teachers, or anything else that denies them the satiation of the senses or the deification of the Self. The worship of the goddess Liberty has become our national cult; piety towards our Creator and loyalty towards our ancestors (i.e. traditionalism) have been cast aside by our culture. Confronted with the majesty of God and His Law, we turn instead to the worship of the golden calf of that makes us happy -- our own selves. But there is no happiness there. There is no freedom there. There is only us, enslaved to our nerve endings for all eternity.

The freedom promised by this world is an illusion. Every man who "liberates" himselves from the Yoke of God only ... chains himself --- to the millstone of his own desires. The way of Self, as both Our Lord and the Buddha pointed out, is the most abject slavery of all. Only by dying to Self -- by renouncing the illusion of individual liberty and submitting our wills to God -- can we hope to live. In a very real sense, the only way to be free is to become a slave of Christ. "He that loses his life for My sake shall find it."

Only by acknowledging Jesus Christ as our LORD -- not our buddy or our peer but as our absolute Master -- can we ever be free. Christianity is a religion of humilty, not pride; of submission, not of independence. Only by throwing away our pride, by humbling ourselves before God and the authorities he institutes here on Earth (even when it hurts!), and by dedicating ourselves to obedience, order, and our duty can we ever cast of the shackles of unquenchable desire and truly be free.

"Where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is liberty."

23 posted on 05/01/2003 1:40 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)

I observe that the root of most blind devotion to evolutionism, particularly in those who feel compelled always to reply with quickdraw bile to even the suggestion of anything like Biblical creationism, in unthinking post after unthinking post, is moral and spiritual, not intellectual.

Well said and very true.