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To: Aric2000
<< Evolution is a SCIENTIFIC theory, based on scientific evidence, facts, and logic. >>

Okay, give me a FACT that shows one kind of creature evolvng into another kind. Give me a FACT that shows inanimate matter becoming alive all by itself.

Is science about finding the TRUTH, or is science about eliminating God from all explanations?
157 posted on 05/06/2003 9:27:59 PM PDT by Con X-Poser
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To: Con X-Poser
Okay, give me a FACT that shows one kind of creature evolvng into another kind. Give me a FACT that shows inanimate matter becoming alive all by itself.

While I'm sure that someone can provide you with examples of speciation (several instances have been observed throughout human history), I fail to understand your demand for observation of matter becoming 'alive all by itself', as that has nothing to do with evolution.

Is science about finding the TRUTH, or is science about eliminating God from all explanations?

Science is about coming up with the best explanation to fit observed phenomenon within certain specific criteria. Typically science cannot consider the existence of a "God" because typically "God" is defined as something not entirely 'of the natural universe' and as such not within the scope of science. That isn't to say that science tries to 'disprove' God, but rather that science cannot speak on matters of God (or Goddess or Gods or what have you).
165 posted on 05/06/2003 9:40:14 PM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: Con X-Poser
I don't know HOW many times that I have to repeat this to you people.

YOU CANNOT SCIENTIFICALLY PROVE THAT GOD EXISTS!!! Therefore science CANNOT use god as a causality.

It is NOT about eliminating god from anything, it is about finding out the truth. When you can PROVE that god exists scientifically, then we can talk about science using god as a causality.

And if the evolutionary tree does NOT make sense to you, well, what can I say. Tells me a lot about your powers of logic and reason.

The fossils fit the tree rather well, and it seems to be branching out rather well, filling up with more fossil evidence. In China we are finding ALL kinds of transitional fossils, it is fascinating, that is if your mind is open enough to listen and look at the evidence, but if your mind is already made up, IE: the creation myth, then no matter what evidence I bring you, it will never be enough to convince you.

See Gore3000 for this kind of closeminded ridiculousness.

Faith is for those that can't handle the truth.

174 posted on 05/06/2003 9:54:15 PM PDT by Aric2000 (Are you on Grampa Dave's team? I am!! $5 a month is all it takes, come join!!!)
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To: Con X-Poser
Okay, give me a FACT that shows one kind of creature evolvng into another kind.

Predicting evolutionary potential: In vitro evolution accurately reproduces natural evolution of the TEM b-lactamase. Barlow, Miriam; Hall, Barry G. Biology Department, University of Rochester, Rochester, NY, USA. Genetics (2002), 160(3), 823-832.

(My summary) This paper and others it cites shows both in vitro and in vivo that antibiotic resistance to cefotaxime, cefuroxime, ceftazadime, and aztreonam evolved by single amino-acid substitutions from an ancestral penicillinase gene. The authors conclusion (and I quote) "The authors take this result as evidence that their in vitro evolution technique accurately mimics natural evolution and can therefore be used to predict the results of natural evolutionary processes. "

223 posted on 05/07/2003 2:20:27 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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