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To: Fractional-American
To summarize, I was saying that I had fallen for the media portrayal of Heston without having all the facts, and that the more I learn about him (primarily from this site) the more I feel he merits admiration and respect.

Plus, I don't think it's fair for packs of 35-and-under media goons to gang up on an old man like something out of A Clockwork Orange, particularly when his mind and body are both failing him because of Alzheimer's.

I didn't even know he had Alzheimers until a few weeks ago.

See also, from:

'Bowling For Columbine' throws a gutter ball
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | October 18, 2002 | Michael Medved
Posted on 10/18/2002 2:14 PM PDT by arual

As a work of cinematic entertainment and political provocation, Michael Moore's widely acclaimed new documentary "Bowling for Columbine" qualifies as a substantial success. Despite its outrageously incoherent, even contradictory, ideological agenda, the movie offers an engaging surface that displays frisky originality, frequent wit, skillful editing, wildly ambitious scope and often impassioned advocacy.

Moore goes beyond the role of mischievous, irreverent blue collar fatso that he popularized in his previous films (most notably "Roger & Me") and his short-lived television show ("TVNation"). This time, Moore promises nothing less than a penetrating exploration of "the fearful heart and soul of the United States," and in the course of guiding us on that journey he comes across as irresponsible, demagogic, shamelessly manipulative and, in the end, unspeakably cruel...

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...Racial issues provide the movie with a grand finale that counts as one of the most despicable (and riveting) cinematic exercises ever featured in a major release. The filmmaker and on-camera star concludes his non-linear voyage by pursuing an interview at the home of Charlton Heston, Hollywood legend and president of the NRA.

The resulting confrontation is almost unbearably painful to watch, as Heston begins the interchange looking robust, masterful, confident and charming and then, under Moore's blatantly unfair and needling questioning, slowly crumbles to the sad status of a frail old man. At first, Moore demands explanations for Heston's appearance at NRA rallies in Colorado and Flint, Mich., shortly after the gun-related tragedies there. Then he moves on to try to force his prey into a corner over America's persistently high homicide rate (without acknowledging the dramatic declines of recent years).

Finally, with Moore flaunting his favorite example of "safe, peaceful" Canada, and pushing relentlessly for some basis for America's more numerous murders, he forces a reluctant, uncertain suggestion from Heston. "I don't know," the great actor begins, and then tentatively mentions the greater racial diversity in the United States.

Mr. Moore pounces on this statement, and virtually accuses Heston of racism – never acknowledging (or telling his audience) that the current president of the NRA enjoyed a personal friendship with Dr. Martin Luther King and participated more prominently in the civil-rights movement and its marches than any other major Hollywood star. Unwilling (or unable) to make this point himself, Mr. Heston merely disconnects his microphone, gets up out of his chair and walks away from Moore and his camera – a wounded refugee seeking shelter in another wing of his own home.

Even without Charlton Heston's courageous announcement of his own battle with Alzheimer's symptoms (an announcement which Moore, of course, never references), this appalling interview would represent a new low in a manipulative filmmaker's checkered career. While posing as a rebel, a loner and crusader for common sense, Mr. Moore remains a totally conventional and thoroughly predictable leftist, particularly in his ill-concealed distaste for America and ordinary Americans. He never bothers to challenge politically correct assumptions, and typically dispenses with any untrendy or unpopular idea – such as Heston's connection of high murder rates to the nation's racial composition – as if it remained so obviously idiotic that it required no rebuttal.

As a matter of fact, the suspicion voiced by Mr. Heston that our homicide rate relates directly to our unusually diverse racial makeup proves more right than wrong. The most recent Department Of Justice statistics indicate that African-Americans commit murder at a rate more than eight times higher than white people, and now represent the majority of U.S. homicide arrests (while only 12 percent of the total population). In other words, if you isolate the murder rate among white people only, on both sides of the border, the difference between the U.S. and Canada almost entirely disappears.

That fact may produce discomfort, and certainly demands serious explanation (with reference, in part, to this nation's persistent history of racism) but it deserves acknowledgment before Moore's movie succeeds in trashing the exalted reputation of one of the most decent and respected actors and activists in Hollywood history. Charlton Heston has enjoyed nearly 60 years of stable, loving marriage (a rarity anywhere, but especially in Tinseltown) and earned the respect and affection even of colleagues who disagree with him on every political proposition.

The French may embrace Michael Moore's America bashing screed (they unanimously awarded it the "55th Anniversary Prize" at the Cannes Film Festival), but citizens of this country will remember Heston's work in movies and in politics long after this sly but ultimately nasty little film has been forgotten. In the end, the wandering, discursive and intermittently brilliant "Bowling for Columbine" amounts to a cinematic gutter ball...

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13 posted on 05/06/2003 9:59:08 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog; All
...The resulting confrontation is almost unbearably painful to watch...

I don't think I could watch it now. He reminds me of my father, my grandmother and my animation professor at SFSU (author of Forbidden Animation, which poleaxes political correctness in the animation industry), all of whom had debilitating strokes. The media are hyenas savaging a helpless disabled man who can't defend himself.

15 posted on 05/06/2003 10:11:53 AM PDT by Fractional-American (http://www.pitbulls.com)
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To: RonDog
The most recent Department Of Justice statistics indicate that African-Americans commit murder at a rate more than eight times higher than white people, and now represent the majority of U.S. homicide arrests

This is probably true (I see too much of it in my own black neighborhood, and I'm afraid to go out of my flat now because of my "black" dog fighter neighbors who stole and killed my dogs), and I think it's due to the fact that so many black people in the US (why, I don't know) live in overcrowded cities where people are practically stacked on top of each other. We've seen all the riots in urban areas of China, Indonesia, Europe, Africa, and South America so why should the US be any different? When any species of social animal becomes overpopulated and overcrowded the society begins to self-destruct. Mice, chickens and rabbits usually start eating each other (which makes me wonder if Soylent Green wasn't intended as a prophetic warning?). I have ZERO sympathy for people who have my skin color and use that as justification for preying on other people of the same color. They do it because they can get away with it.

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20 posted on 05/06/2003 10:28:38 AM PDT by Fractional-American (http://www.pitbulls.com)
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