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Great America Will Change Its Signs (subtitle: girl chokes to death on ride with taffy in her mouth)
Daily Herald (newspaper serving the NW/W Chicago metro area) ^ | May 06, 2003 | Madhu Krishnamurthy Daily Herald Staff Writer

Posted on 05/06/2003 6:55:02 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

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To: aruanan
Parents aren't always around - for ex. the local park district offers a camp for adolescents in which one day of camp is a trip to Great America. So that basically means that there would be one camp counselor (probably a teenager themselves or a college-age kid) in charge of monitoring a group of typically 6-8 kids. Similarly, our high school band went to Great America on a field trip as a reward for our hard efforts at an intensive week-long marching workshop to prepare for the season. We ran around in pairs, packs, etc. There were about 5 parent chaperones on that trip for a 90-member band. Needless to say, we were NOT monitored for gum-chewing on rides.
21 posted on 05/06/2003 8:17:10 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: MissAmericanPie
Oh, I very much agree with you. But I would wonder just how many kids (pre-teens, adolescents) are wandering around these parks without their parents or an adult chaperone in the immediate vicinity.
22 posted on 05/06/2003 8:18:14 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
signs, signs, everywhere there's signs....
23 posted on 05/06/2003 8:19:36 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: MissAmericanPie
By the way, I wouldn't say that you're an "overprotective mom". How about "mom with common sense"?! ;-)
24 posted on 05/06/2003 8:21:49 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
You have a point, but it's not a good idea to let younger kids just roam around with older siblings or friends. It puts a responsibility on the older ones that they are not mature enough to handle in an emergency.

Of course your talking to a woman that ruined the families summer vacation in Florida by standing on the beach with a pair of binoculars looking for sharks while the kids swam, hahaha.
25 posted on 05/06/2003 8:22:29 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
It's not a matter of them reading the signs, just a matter of covering their ass in the most expeditious manner, to try and deflect all the ammunition that will be fired their way in the inevitable $6.3 billion lawsuit that will soon follow. Lawyers have fairly ruined this country.
26 posted on 05/06/2003 8:26:12 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
I worked at an amusement park for four years during the summer when in high school and college. We had signs forbidding food and drink on rides. I can't imagine that this park didn't. Kids will be kids, however, and do not think of candy and gum as food. I am really astounded that this park continued to sell food while people were in line. I'm sure we didn't because the operators didn't want it coming back up. You'd be surprised what happens on these rides! Ugh.
27 posted on 05/06/2003 8:26:45 AM PDT by twigs
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To: MissAmericanPie
This is the problem. We as parents need to watch our little ones. Even under our own eyes they do the wrong things.

The only solution is we hope the choices they make have been ground by our instructions as they grow. Part time parenting is not an option.

28 posted on 05/06/2003 8:28:56 AM PDT by Baseballguy
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To: twigs
I'm told that amusement park workers hate the "vomit detail", when they have to clean up after rides. These workers have a lot of responsibility: they have to make sure the kids are all buckled in, etc. Now they have to inspect each kid to see if they have gum in their mouth?
29 posted on 05/06/2003 8:31:22 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: All
This is a picture of the opening drop of this ride:


30 posted on 05/06/2003 8:47:10 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: All
The Raging Bull is a "hyper-twister" as theme park lingo goes.
31 posted on 05/06/2003 8:52:03 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
What if the parents aren't around to keep an eye on the kids?

Parents who let 11-year-olds run around by themselves all over an amusement park are stupid parents.
32 posted on 05/06/2003 8:52:11 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan
Stupid comment.
33 posted on 05/06/2003 8:53:17 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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To: Ciexyz
There's no way that they can check each child's mouth. But they can remind each group that goes in that they should put anything in their mouth in the trash can which should be at the entrance. We had several near-fatal injuries; I can assure you that the operators will do whatever they reasonably can to avoid it. Yes, patrons, whether children or adults, do have responsibility too. Liability is such that parks must take all reasonable care.
34 posted on 05/06/2003 9:01:14 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Mears
I feel sorry for the family but I will not feel sorry for them if they sue.

I don't know how far it will go, but have you looked at the back of any theme park ticket? There is a disclaimer that by purchasing the ticket and admitance into the park relieves all liability from the park and that rides are "AT YOUR OWN RISK". I am sorry at the loss for this family. But sueing the theme park for negligence of the parent or child isn't right.

35 posted on 05/06/2003 9:58:11 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (If I keep my eyes on Jesus, I could walk on water - Audio Adrenaline)
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To: Ciexyz
the "vomit detail"

I had that working for the airlines...it isn't fun and you end up cleaning your own too...

36 posted on 05/06/2003 10:00:16 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (If I keep my eyes on Jesus, I could walk on water - Audio Adrenaline)
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To: Coop
Oh, I agree with you. But as long as someone else can be financially liable (with punitive damages) for OUR stupid mistakes, this is how it'll be.

Besides, this particular case--it doesn't seem THAT stupid to me. She didn't think about her gum, that's all. She probably did almost everything with gum in her mouth, and only gave it a thought when someone ELSE told her to take it out. I bet half of us would need a sign, in this case.

I burned my husband's emergency brake up the first time I drove his Jeep. I thought that was just a Jeep thing until the smell got strong enough to clue me in that something bad was going on. The brake lever hadn't gone all the way down but I didn't know it. Stupid? Yeah, sort of, but not a very high threshold of stupidity, I hope.
37 posted on 05/06/2003 10:40:45 AM PDT by ChemistCat (My new bumper sticker: MY OTHER DRIVER IS A ROCKET SCIENTIST)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
This reminds me of Foxworthy's..."Here's your sign..!!" bit.

FWIW--

38 posted on 05/06/2003 10:42:53 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary Clinton took to N.Y. like a hog to persimmons.)
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To: ChemistCat
But as long as someone else can be financially liable (with punitive damages) for OUR stupid mistakes, this is how it'll be.

Yes indeed. You're right. The girl made an honest mistake that most of us could/would have made. And tragically she paid with her life.

39 posted on 05/06/2003 10:49:12 AM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Choking to death on taffy isn't something I, personally, would have considered likely on a roller coaster. I love roller coasters, have no idea whether I ever rode one with something in my mouth.

Something more to warn the kids about. Oh, I guess I should also say "no eating in the car" because you might get in a wreck and choke to death on your food. There goes the takeout food industry!

Seems more like a freak accident rather than something foreseeable to me.
40 posted on 05/06/2003 11:48:52 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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