WIPEOUT: NEXT ROUND IN THE PERMO-TRIASSIC MASS EXTINCTION DEBATE

From New Scientist | 26 April 2003 | Michael Benton

[longshadow]

lurking with amused detachment

[null and void]

ditto

[VadeRetro]

I don't go hard on the man..he's a Genius..

I found Worlds in Collision very convincing ... when I was 16. The problem with the way Velikovsky's work is bandied about on these threads, his name often mentioned in reverential tones, is that V got it spectacularly wrong. Thought-provoking, yes. Entertaining, yes. Nevertheless, he made a thought-provoking, entertaining mess of it.

Whatever his IQ may have been, he was a dilettante, almost always working outside of any area of personal expertise. It's all wrong. That's worth mentioning, too.

[Light Speed]

lunatics-on-the-loose placemarker

739 posted on 05/06/2003 10:50 AM PDT by longshadow [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 737 | View Replies | Report Abuse

Thanks....

Looks like you guys just Lurk and mock people.

[Light Speed]

"Guess there is allways a place for the one liner:...Did IQ's suddenly drop while I was away?

[CobaltBlue]

Cool article. Now, I have a question. What happens when Creationists read articles like this?

If you read an article like this and understand it, how can you not believe in evolution?

Abiogenesis is a completely different concept than evolution. I don't have a problem with rejecting abiogenesis -- as yet there is no scientific proof that life on earth evolved spontaneously from unliving matter -- maybe some living creatures hitched a ride on a meteorite, maybe God specially created life on earth when the conditions were right, who knows?

But to reject evolution seems totally nonsensical to me. The evidence is right there for anyone to see.

[PatrickHenry]

The evidence is right there for anyone to see.

It is, isn't it? But some don't want to know.

[Grut]

That is Suveria jeepus

Shouldn't the Permian version therefore be Suveriamimus jeepus? Over so long a time span, there can be no question of a direct relation.

[Mad Dawgg]

Ok all this scientific stuff confuses me...

so tell me if I buy the 97 Ford Explorer I have my eye on and factoring in this article and all the evidence so far in the global warming debate...

Will I contribute to global warming by driving it thus causing New York and L.A. to sink beneath the oceans?

And if the above is true then is this necessarily a "Bad" thing?

[VadeRetro]

You didn't mention what happens to France. That's important to know.

[bert]

The things you can learn on FRee Republic are endless.

[visualops]

[js1138]

as yet there is no scientific proof that life on earth evolved spontaneously from unliving matter...

But which attitude is more likely to lead to productive research -- the belief that abiogensis cannot happen and there is no point in looking for evidence, or the belief that it probably happened at least once somewhere, somehow?

[Light Speed]

Thanks for the photo..did a properties link to the site its from...cool.

Hope this link holds...

[CobaltBlue]

>>which attitude is more likely to lead to productive research<<

Looking, obviously. Even if (and I have no idea) originally life was NOT the result of abiogenesis, that doesn't mean that we can't replicate the results in a laboratory.

The villagers in Frankenstein might not agree . . . .

[visualops]

Ah I loved that movie, the dragons were awesome!

[Light Speed]

I liked it...kinda was hoping for more Technology vs Dragons...

Dragon Mythology is interesting...one area of the world especially..Central America

There's a Temple you may have seen...The Temple of Kulkulcan...with the Dragon heads at the base.

During the equinoxes..the suns shadow falls on the pyramid stairs ,the Dragons shadow appears to descend into the Earth...really cool.

[Ben Chad]

Perhaps they are thinking....hogwash, for it to be valid science, you have to see it while it's happening. The same criticism would have to be leveled against astronomers and cosmologists studying events that occurred billions of years ago. Just a guess. I can't fathom the mindset.

[SunkenCiv]

An oldie:

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