[David Noles]

I dont know if any Republican will ever be a shoe in. Just look at the electoral map. Republicans will never win California....period and probably not New York. Florida could be iffy in the future especially if Castro falls and all those Cubans switch partys (which ill bet they do if they dont go back to Cuba). With all those states in the Democratic camp, I dont think its possible to win, we need at least one more big state other than Texas.

Never say never in politics , New York is shaping up to be a safe bet for the gop in 04 and by the way , California is very much in play with Bush out polling anyone in the democratic field. Florida has already been taken out play for the democrats. 2004 will not be a continuation of election 2000. Forget the old red blue map.

[capitan_refugio]

I don't know about you, but I sure like the maps with the Republicans in "blue." "Red" just goes naturally with the Dumbocraps.

[Sonny M]

Honestly, I live I live in New York City, upstate is republican, but not conservative. NYC which is most of the voter base of this state, is not going to go republican, as long as the people here have any kind of time to kill to vote. They don't know not care about issues, but they will vote against republicans. Bloomberg won his election here by running to the left of Mark Green (who was a nader raider for god sakes, side note, his brother is a die hard, straight line, conservative, who is big on supporting the GOP, outside of his brother, he always puts money into the GOP, I guess the black sheep theory is true). In fact, if Sharpton hadn't screwed the dems with the minority vote, we would have a dem mayor today.

[RockBassCreek]

Forget the old red blue map.

Not exactly. That win from 2000 is important because there's been NO shift in any of those states in an anti-Bush direction. Fly-over country won once for Bush. It can do it again IF NEED BE.

I also think that some of the the non-Bush states will probably go his way this next time. Forget Florida -- add one or all to Bush: Pennsylvania, Arizona, Michigan, Iowa, to Bush's column.