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To: SunStar
See (and this goes for all in this discussion), definitions have changed. Are changing before our eyes. Paleocons are LOGICALLY what I think the SHOULD be, i.e., the conservative movement before neo-cons arrived. BUT, by current usage, "paleocon" is being applied to a mixed batch of libertarians (Ron Paul, Sam Francis, Joe Sobran, Lew Rockwell, Murray Rothbard), populists (Pat Buchanan), indefinable but kind of fun (Taki) and nutcakes (David Duke -- and what has he ever had to do with conservatism?). Not one of those people is a paleo by MY definition, though Sobran, Francis and Buchanan all used to be once upon a time.

That's what I set out to say: we have a semantic problem. These labels are being used (or misused) in different ways so we aren't communicating. David Frum muddied the waters but good.

I am out of time to discuss this for now... Carry on :-)

76 posted on 05/03/2003 10:05:16 AM PDT by T'wit
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To: T'wit
Well said...again.
87 posted on 05/03/2003 10:20:57 AM PDT by wardaddy (I know you rider, gonna miss me when I'm gone)
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