[ninenot]

Well, the Book of Lists of Eminentoes has been published, thanks to our BlackElk Historian Service.

However, BlackElk and I may have to have a gentlemanly disagreement over a few small items: first, BE found no place to list PJBuchanan, arguably the most (correct) prophet in recent American history--who foretold the Kulturkampf now being played out in living color before the Supremes (the Texas anti-sodomy law, inter alia;) the massive invasion of illegal aliens from Mexico and Central America and the consequent vitality of the "take back Mexicali" movement;) the dangers of confusing the "national interest" with the interests of General Motors (and perhaps Exxon;) and, most painful to many in the Upper Midwest, the wholesale export of family-supporting industrial jobs to the Third World by the abandonment of "fair trade" in favor of Newt Gingrich's whores-mix, "free trade."

Thus, even if PJB cannot get elected to dogcatcher, he deserves some sort of recognition from the esteemed BlackElk.

SECONDLY, BlackElk will have a great deal of difficulty explaining to many the seemingly reckless expenditures being made by the Gummint, pushed through by 'Republicans' and signed into law by GWBush. Defense we need. Social Security we are committed to by law. Education? Get serious. EPA? Draconian, and getting worse. Housing/Urban Development? A sop to unions and their big-city Democratic mayoral allies (usually corrupt allies, to boot.)

SO, in fairness to BE, I request the favor of his response.

[BlackElk]

Ninenot: Herewith, my reply.

I do not agree with PJB's border mania nor that there is any actual likelihood of a reconquista of the southwest. The prevention of such a reconquista is one, but only one, of the reasons why God invented the US Army, Navy, Air Force, and, of course, the Marine Corps. Mamacita bringing her kids across the border to improve their standard of living is not a threat to our country. She is more likely our social issue reinforcement than an enemy of America.

If Americans are upset with Mexicans and Central Americans moving here legally or otherwise, they need to consider a few things. First, there are warehouses in Kansas and probably elsewhere storing hundreds of thousands of INS applications that were never even reviewed much less replied to. Many tried the "legal" route and were ignored by the usual gang of inefficient bureacratic stooges at INS. People have one life tro live and their kids only grow up once. The culture of INS ten spreads to the Mexicans. The law does not tell the INS to store and ignore applications. The Mexicans have figured out how to be legalized. Periodic amnesties. Don't blame the Mexicans or other Latin Americans.

I moved to Illinois from Connecticut because I was convinced that Illinois was now better than Connecticut as a place to raise my kids. One example is that ninenot and his family are within driving distance. The Mexicans move here for the same reason that their kids will have better lives as a result.

Americans, not thee and me, but you know the ones, are birth-controlling and aborting themselves into oblivion. PJB also complains about this in his latest book and points out that this opens the doors to those who would not normally be admitted since we also need fresh workers to pay the social insurance taxes we will depend upon in our old age.

Unlike many here, I agree with Pat on the rest of the issues you cite and I voted for him in 1992 and 1996.

Finally as to PJB he is not a product of the conservative movement. He lateralled in through the bright but none too ideologically reliable Richard Nixon. The lack of movement connection often tells.

The issues in your last paragraphdo remain issues. I never thought I would see the end of the Iron Curtain in my lifetime or genuine welfare reform, but I have. All in good time, all in good time. What we really don't need is a Demonratic President, much less Hillary.