[ffusco]

I have no leadership position, yet I serve still.

I don't dispute that morals are declining, but the idea that our moral decline will lead to a Sino or European pre-eminence is silly. First of all it is Unlikely that Europe will ever muster the will to use its power even if they decided to acquire power. Secondly European culture is not a "commodity" like American culture and that is not going to change in 30 years- especially since English is the main language for diplomacy and commerce. And lastly the Chinese and Euro's need our markets to gain power. So any decline in our "spending power" will cripple their chances of reaching parity with us.

[laredo44]

I have no leadership position, yet I serve still.

If it's any consolation, I can see your butt when i look up. ;^)