[jlogajan]

Don't forget, they do a good bit of handwaving to "prove" that things are too complicated to be designed. What I have not seen, however, is a basis of comparison. I have not seen a single test for 'design' in the universe. The problem is that because they claim that the universe is designed, there's nothing 'not designed' to which they can point as a frame of reference.

I like to ask them "Who designed the designer?" Suddenly something extraordinarily complex doesn't need to be designed. It's the old turtle standing on a turtle theory -- a child-like conceptual ability. And they're so cute when they're asleep.

[Dataman]

I like to ask them "Who designed the designer?" Suddenly something extraordinarily complex doesn't need to be designed

That question is not a difficult one. So I'll assume you are asking it. Short answer:

If God created time and the universe, He must have existed outside of time and the universe. Although everything in the universe must have a cause/beginning, God is the Causer and Sustainer of the universe and therefore the Uncaused Cause.