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"And yes, the NOT being removed was a veiled insult, only because your response to me was one as well. "

Touche.

Regarding the rest of your post. Evolution means an infinite number of things to people. The word, as used on these threads is like a piece of warm jello, regarding definition.

I firmly accept the concept of micro evolution. The subtleties of evolutionary thinking sometimes are easily acceptable to someone who believes the Bible account of creation, and sometimes not.

One of the more interesting things in the Bible is the mention of the Behemouth and the Leviathon. Both are spoken of as though the contemporary reader had experience with them. Modern scholars have attempted to call them Elephants and Hippos, or aligators. All are preposterous. But the other explanations don't make sense, based on the world view that the same animals that exist today were all that was around then.

We don't know ANYTHING for sure about evolution. Not "evolutionists" or "creationists." And both sides are guilty of the exact same sins. I normally don't participate in these threads because they are exercises in futility from both sides, and both sides can get pretty disrespectful.

You cought me in my "insult." As a matter of fact, I thought long and hard before I hit the post button, and decided I was spending too much time on a minor decision. So you got what you got.

I will put "in a nutshell" my basic attitude about this whole thing: It is an argument between two different religious beliefs. At least one side admits it.

We don't know ANYTHING for sure about evolution. Not "evolutionists" or "creationists.". False.

And both sides are guilty of the exact same sins. False

I normally don't participate in these threads. Me neither

...because they are exercises in futility from both sides, and both sides can get pretty disrespectful. TRUE!

Cheers, Ax

Touche indeed...;)

I am sorry to not agree with your last point.

You seem to think that evolution is a religious belief.

Not sure how you come to this conclusion.

ID is a religious belief, Creationism is a religious belief, but evolution is a scientific theory.

Let us keep our facts straight here.

Nothing about the theory of evolution is religious.

It is based on scienctific fact and speculation.

Therefore it is scientific, religion on the other hand, god did this, or an intelligent designer did this, that is religion. Statements without scientific basis.

When you can prove scientifically that god exists, then we will both be talking the same thing, because then ID and Creationism will join the ranks of science, but until then, we are indeed talking 2 different things.

Creationism/ID= religious belief based on biblical writings.

Evolution= Scientific theory based on facts and scientific speculation, that speculation being based on scientific facts and physical laws.