[Not Insane]

"If there are rules, then IDis implied.

Why? "

When I see anything complex, I assume somebody made it, until I can prove otherwise.

We see an old car rusting in a field and assume it was manufactured. Why? Because we know the manufacturer (it's a Chevy)

We see a weed growing out of the engine block of that car, a weed that is FAR more complex in one of it's cells than the entire car and we assume it came about accidentally (no designer). Why? Because we don't know the designer.

Well, some of us DO know the Designer and actually have a PERSONAL relationship with Him. He is as real as my wife and you will not convince me that either doesn't exist.

[Doctor Stochastic]

When I see anything complex, I assume somebody made it, until I can prove otherwise.

Why do you assume somebody made it? Perhaps you could show something that is not "made." If everything is "made" the concept loses all explanatory value.

[Dimensio]

We see an old car rusting in a field and assume it was manufactured. Why? Because we know the manufacturer (it's a Chevy) We see a weed growing out of the engine block of that car, a weed that is FAR more complex in one of it's cells than the entire car and we assume it came about accidentally (no designer). Why? Because we don't know the designer.

Well, given that I can study the engineering development of an automobile, I've got more documentation on the design of the car than you can provide for the weed.

Well, some of us DO know the Designer and actually have a PERSONAL relationship with Him.

Perhaps you could point out how I might test for the existence of this designer? A phone number or e-mail address, perhaps?