Posted on 05/02/2003 10:26:29 AM PDT by Remedy
According to Illustra Media, the Public Broadcasting System uploaded the film Unlocking the Mystery of Life to its satellite this past Sunday. For the next three years, it will be available for member stations to download and broadcast. In addition, PBS is offering the film on their Shop PBS website under Science/Biology videos (page 4).
The film, released a little over a year ago, has been called a definitive presentation of the Intelligent Design movement. With interviews and evidences from eight PhD scientists, it presents strictly scientific (not religious) arguments that challenge Darwinian evolution, and show instead that intelligent design is a superior explanation for the complexity of life, particularly of DNA and molecular machines. The film has been well received not only across America but in Russia and other countries. Many public school teachers are using the material in science classrooms without fear of controversies over creationism or religion in the science classroom, because the material is scientific, not religious, in all its arguments and evidences, and presents reputable scientists who are well qualified in their fields: Dean Kenyon, Michael Behe, Jonathan Wells, Steven Meyer, William Dembski, Scott Minnich, Jed Macosko, and Paul Nelson, with a couple of brief appearances by Phillip E. Johnson, the "founder" of the Intelligent Design movement.
Check with your local PBS Station to find out when they plan to air it. If it is not on their schedule, call or write and encourage them to show the film. Why should television partly supported by public tax funds present only a one-sided view on this subject, so foundational to all people believe and think? We applaud PBS's move, but it is only partial penance for the Evolution series and decades of biased reporting on evolution.
This is a wonderful film, beautifully edited and shot on many locations, including the Galápagos Islands, and scored to original music by Mark Lewis. People are not only buying it for themselves, but buying extra copies to show to friends and co-workers. Unlocking the Mystery of Life available here on our Products page in VHS and DVD formats. The film is about an hour long and includes vivid computer graphics of DNA in action. The DVD version includes an extra half-hour of bonus features, including answers to 14 frequently-asked questions about intelligent design, answered by the scientists who appear in the film.
This is a must-see video. Get it, and get it around.
Intelligent Design Gets a Powerful New Media Boost
03/09/2002We highly recommend this film. Copies are just now becoming available for $20. Visit IllustraMedia.com and order it. View it, and pass it around. Share it with your teachers, your co-workers, your church. You will have no embarrassment showing this high-quality, beautiful, amazing film to anyone, even the most ardent evolutionist.
The purpose of that link (How could an eye evolve) was not to convince you. Rather, it was to puncture one argument of ID "theory," which claims that an eye cannot evolve by mutation and natural selection. "No way it could happen."
That's the claim, which opens the door to the ID "solution" to this "impossible eye-evolution problem." It's very important to be clear at this point. ID says that eye evolution is impossible. That's a big claim. ID rests on that foundation. If there are cracks in that foundation, ID is a "theory" that purports to solve a "problem" which doesn't even exist.
What that link does is present a way in which eye evolution could happen (with some examples of species at different stages). That's all the link does. We're not trying to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that this is exactly the path taken. That's not necessary (and it may not be possible, given the lack of fossil evidence for tissues like eyes). All that is necessary to puncture the ID claim is to show that there is at least one comprehensible natural path that could have been taken by evolution. There may have been others, but here is at least one. (And ID "theory" says there are none.)
Any evolutionary path is, by the nature of things, improbable. Your own existence is improbable. Any of your ancestors could have taken a different turn at just the right moment and you wouldn't be here. The odds against you -- or anything else -- are astronomical. Yet here we are. And after billions of years, eyes are here too. And although improbable, even highly improbable, it's not impossible. Thus the threshhold requirement for ID "theory" fails.
No, I don't think so. To wit:
That specific program is not a good representation of blind chance. It is a terrible representation. Nothing blind about it.
It's not supposed to be, and only an idiotically literal reading of the web page makes it into such. Obviously, it's not about blind chance. Guess what? Neither is evolution.
This applet's ability to guess phrases doesn't prove that evolution happened, of course. (There's plenty of evidence for that anyway, with or without my help.) But you should think of this applet when you hear someone claim that "blind chance" couldn't possibly have produced something as complex as, say, a hemoglobin molecule. When the results are subject to non-random pressures, "blind chance" can do a lot more than your intuition suggests.
Hey, notice those quotes around "blind chance"? Does that mean anything at all to you? Does it trigger some faint thought in your head, such as "hey, maybe they're not being entirely literal here"? Does preceding "blind chance" with "non-random pressures" have any effect on the meaning of the sentence? Is English your second language, or your third?
No? Still don't get it?
Sorry, the problem here is your inability to parse idiomatic English and understand what is meant by basic punctuation in context, not the program or the web site. You think they were speaking literally about 100% random processes, when neither evolution or this program are any such thing. The only straw man here is the one you're proceeding to kick the stuffing out of by claiming that this program is supposed to be something other than what it is.
The point is that evolutionary theory has no set goal. Wherever you go, that's where you are.
There is no teleology in evolutionary theory. Fittest is a ex-post description of a result, not an ex-ante description of a goal.
I don't believe in Evolution but those who do must believe it has a goal because "Natural Selection" requires criteria. I don't believe nature can select (anymore than gravity) but if it could select, it would require criteria - a goal or goals on which to base it's selection.
Ichneumon said:
For evolution to occur, there has to be some method by which variations are "graded" in some fashion by whether they are more or less "successful", and this has to affect their reproductive rates. In nature, that takes place by the sheer fact of life itself -- those individuals which are better suited to survive long enough to reproduce (and reproduce successfully, and/or more often) are the ones who are going to pass on more of their genes than the ones who do so less successfully.
Molecules just don't assemble themselves in ever increasing complexity by accident and trying to get software to evolve is a fools errand.
Please cite a credible definition of "scientific theory" that explains why a scientific theory can ONLY rely on laboratory experiments as a source of supportive evidence.
Please keep in mind that the critical "experiment" that lead to the acceptance of Einstein's Theory of General Relativity was NOT done in a laboratory. It was done by observing the apparent location of stars during a solar eclipse.
Please keep in mind that "repeatable" does not necessarily mean "lab work."
Yes. And the theory of the solar system was initially accepted because of telescopic observations of the phases of Venus, which were predicted by the theory.
I did not introduce the concept of lab work into this thread somebody else did they were trying to support their belief that the concept intelligent design must be ignored based on the inability to do lab work. It makes not sense to me (that was the point of my retort) so please address your question the one the presented that position
Please keep in mind that the critical "experiment" that lead to the acceptance of Einstein's Theory of General Relativity was NOT done in a laboratory. It was done by observing the apparent location of stars during a solar eclipse.
I totally agree please address this comment to the person the interject the concept of lab work into a debate on cosmology.
Please keep in mind that "repeatable" does not necessarily mean "lab work."
Speaking of lab work in this context is a tad bit silly that was the point of my retort.
Please keep in mind all cosmological theories are nothing more than theories (and will always be theories unless we perfect time travel) be it orthodox Darwinism or Christian fundamentalism.
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