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Russia offers mothers a free home if they promise to bear three babies
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Posted on 05/02/2003 7:03:56 AM PDT by RussianConservative

(Filed: 27/12/2002)

Drastic steps are being taken to halt the falling birth rate in Russia. Julius Strauss reports from Zolotukha

The deal Natasha was offered was simple: prove she was fertile, that her husband was not an alcoholic and agree to having three children in five years.

In exchange the local council would buy her a house of her own. Providing she fulfilled her child-bearing obligations there would be no repayments to make, and, after five years, nothing owing.

The babies-for-houses scheme was introduced this year in Ahtubinsk, a poverty-stricken region of southern Russia. It is a desperate attempt to reverse the falling birthrate, that, if it is not checked, will depopulate swathes of the area.

The problem is one shared by the whole of Russia. Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, Aids, alcoholism and poverty have pushed the country's population into decline.

According to some predictions, at present rates the population could fall from 143 million to 90 million by 2050. Last year President Putin said the problem threatened the very existence of Russia.

In Soviet times Ahtubinsk was a proud town. Chosen as a secret testing centre for Sukhoi fighter aircraft, it was home to thousands of pilots.

Now most have left, the only restaurant is shabby and empty and the local market sells cheap goods from China and Vietnam and unappetising salty fish. The blocks of houses have been neglected and inches of mud cover the pavements and roads.

But the biggest problem is the lack of babies. In the region officials say 1,300 people died last year and only 848 children were born.

Now, frustrated at what they say is a lack of determination to deal with the problem at the top, local authorities have decided to take matters into their own hands.

Alexei Furik, the regional administrator who dreamt up the homes scheme, said: "Since the collapse of the USSR we have been losing two per cent of our population a year. The government and the president always talk about this problem but they never do anything. So we decided to act alone."

Setting aside one per cent of the local budget, council officials began advertising for applicants at the beginning of the year. Since then they have financed 10 new homes. They say that of the couples who signed up, four already have babies and several more are pregnant.

"We have been forced to turn away families this year because the budget has run out," said Irina Lesenko, an official in charge of looking for houses and approving applications.

"Next year we hope to allocate more money as there is a great demand." Each couple who sign up are contractually obliged to have three babies in five years. If they only have two, they have to return half the cost of the house. For one baby the sum is two thirds.

Husband and wife must be under 30 and provide solid work references. The man must prove he is not an alcoholic or drug abuser and the woman must undergo a medical test to show that she can have children.

If all is well, contracts are drawn up and signed and the couple can begin the search for a house. With the local property market in the doldrums, £600 to £1,200 can usually secure a home.

Natasha and Konstantin chose a neat, well-kept house in the village of Zolotukha, which came with a cowshed, a chicken pen and a traditional Russian bathhouse.

Konstantin works for the local telephone company and earns £30 a month. With vegetables, eggs and milk from their own garden, the couple have enough to get by.

Standing on the house steps holding three-month-old Dasha, their first "contracted" baby, Natasha said: "Konstantin and I have only just got married but we would never have had enough money to buy our own house. We wanted to have children anyway - perhaps only two - but now we will have three."

A few hundred yards away Vadim Ibragimov, 26, a tractor driver, was fixing up his new home, also bought under the scheme. His wife Lyudmila, 24, is a night-time security guard at the local school. He said: "There's no way we could have bought our own house on the salaries we get."

The local mayor, Fedor Donskoy, was more sceptical about the future. "Having children is easy," he said. "It is bringing them up that costs money.

"Sending a child to school is like sending a Cossack to battle. Just as the Cossack needs a horse, a gun and ammunition, the child needs books, clothes and food. This is a poor village."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: russia; russian; russianbear
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1 posted on 05/02/2003 7:03:56 AM PDT by RussianConservative
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To: RussianConservative
Its a surprise to see incentives of any kind offered in Russia.
2 posted on 05/02/2003 7:09:25 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: RussianConservative
It's nice to see some respect for life.
3 posted on 05/02/2003 7:12:50 AM PDT by Aloysius
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To: RussianConservative
What do you get for killing three babies? As goofy as the former Soviet Union was/is, they sure seem to cut to the chase sometimes.......

A flat tax doubled revenues......Making more taxpayers and not killing them using tax money.

Can we replace congress with the Duma?

Maybe we can outsource our politicians?

4 posted on 05/02/2003 7:14:09 AM PDT by blackdog (Peace, love, and understanding.....$10 bucks a hit in America.)
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To: RussianConservative
I would have another baby if someone would give me a house.
But let me tell you, the money has to come from somewhere and in the long run, the cash I now pay for my mortgage would go to taxes anyway to fund other women's houses. That would suck.
One less child is ok.
5 posted on 05/02/2003 7:14:51 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Bush/Rice 2004- pray for our troops)
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To: RussianConservative
Communists did this for years. Now the people are smarter.

All Russia needs to do is open the border and the Chinese will solve their population problem, much like Mexico has ours.

6 posted on 05/02/2003 7:16:23 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: blackdog
Sorry, Duma members don't have time to work through 100 million pages of US tax code and laws...not enough trees in Russia to make duplicate copies.
7 posted on 05/02/2003 7:17:00 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: netmilsmom
In long run, there would be bigger tax base and support for your retirement...someone has to pay taxes for social security.
8 posted on 05/02/2003 7:17:47 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: netmilsmom
One less child is ok.

No it's not. The average European woman has only 1.4 children in her lifetime. You need 2.1 to break even. That means every generation 33% of the population is gone. In Russia and Italy, the birthrate is as low as 1.1 which means half the population is gone in a single generation. This is genocide. When you combine birthrates like this with explosive third world birth rates and mass immigration you're looking at the extinction of European culture. Any price is worth paying to avoid that. I dislike welfare and social programs, but when the very survival of your society is at stake, its worth paying for. Hell, Europeans already pay to support the unlimited progeny of third world immigrants via food aid and welfare, what's wrong with giving that same benefit to their own people and even the playing field a little bit?

9 posted on 05/02/2003 7:19:36 AM PDT by Godel
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To: netmilsmom
If we had not killed all the babies from the 70's and 80's with state sponsored abortion, we would have no social security crisis, about 20% more taxpayers paying their share, and cheaper labor which would stop job export.

The only debt this generation passes onto the next in a modern society is the cause and effect of aborting the next generation.

It's our own version of the Eskimo nursing care system......An ice flow and a kiss good bye.

10 posted on 05/02/2003 7:21:10 AM PDT by blackdog (Peace, love, and understanding.....$10 bucks a hit in America.)
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To: RussianConservative
It sounds like an excellent deal for the families to me.
11 posted on 05/02/2003 7:22:42 AM PDT by jimt (Is your church BATF approved?)
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To: RussianConservative
Pretty good one...

I was not joking though. Let's just pay congress to stay at home. Hire outside politicians with a track record of solving problems, not just rearranging them. Maggie Thatcher, the Flat Tax guys in Russia, The government of Guernsey(all of them) it's the richest per capita nation on the globe. The guys who opened up those 24 hour walk in medical centers that take cash only(a doctors visit and non ambulatory care will cost you less than $75 including the prescription), anyone who makes their own coffee and doesn't send an aide to Starbucks, Norman Schwartzkopf, Peggy Noonen, Al Sharpton, and Steve Forbes.

That should do it.......

And don't flame me on Sharpton, he is a dedicated guy who is just in need of self improvement. Al is not a racist.

12 posted on 05/02/2003 7:32:20 AM PDT by blackdog (Peace, love, and understanding.....$10 bucks a hit in America.)
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To: Godel
Actually, Russian birthrate is around 1.4 or 1.5 now. Good economy, more children...unlike europe.
13 posted on 05/02/2003 7:32:28 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: blackdog
If we had not killed all the babies from the 70's and 80's with state sponsored abortion, we would have no social security crisis, about 20% more taxpayers paying their share, and cheaper labor which would stop job export

We also wouldn't have had to open up our borders to millions of muslim immigrants.

14 posted on 05/02/2003 7:36:19 AM PDT by Aloysius
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To: jimt
Heard it spreads to other Oblasts too...this is what Americans call states rights. Not from central government.
15 posted on 05/02/2003 7:38:42 AM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Aloysius
I do not blame Mexicas, Muslems, or immigrating bridge trolls or ogars for getting here. If you take 100 run of the mill Americans and an equal number of ethnic immigrants, judge their morals, judge their family values, judge their work ethic, and judge their whining level, you will want to hang with the illegals, trust me.
16 posted on 05/02/2003 7:41:55 AM PDT by blackdog (Peace, love, and understanding.....$10 bucks a hit in America.)
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To: RussianConservative
Give a 15%/kid tax reduction in the US, and I guarantee you will see lots of upper-middle-class households with 4 or more kids. Pay for it by cutting welfare. If underclass women like babies, they can get jobs in day-care
17 posted on 05/02/2003 7:46:08 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
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To: Godel
In Russia and Italy, the birthrate is as low as 1.1 which means half the population is gone in a single generation. This is genocide. When you combine birthrates like this with explosive third world birth rates and mass immigration you're looking at the extinction of European culture.

And the low birth rates are happening in the middle-class families that pay the taxes that support the welfare state. What happens then the base of taxpayers drops below the level needed to keep the welfare checks coming?

Expect mass rioting and civil war in Europe in the next 5-10 years

18 posted on 05/02/2003 7:49:13 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
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To: cynicom
You forgot to close your sarcasm tag...
19 posted on 05/02/2003 7:49:19 AM PDT by Under the Radar
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To: SauronOfMordor
Expect mass rioting and civil war in Europe in the next 5-10 years

So very true... It is coming soon to a town near you, as well.

20 posted on 05/02/2003 7:51:34 AM PDT by Under the Radar
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