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To: GOPcapitalist
"The war has nothing to do with terrorism or 9/11 and everything to do with the acquisition of oil"

Hmmmm? Then why were the first battles of the Mexican War were in California, not in Texas? It was not about the Texas border --- it was about getting the land we had tried to purchase from Mexico years before.

35 posted on 05/02/2003 1:40:05 PM PDT by Ditto (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: Ditto
Hmmmm? Then why were the first battles of the Mexican War were in California, not in Texas?

The first battle, as in the one that caused America to declare war, was on May 8, 1846 in Palo Alto after the Mexican army crossed the Rio Grande into Texas.

36 posted on 05/02/2003 2:01:43 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: Ditto
For the record, here's the treaty which set the border at the Rio Grande. There is not one word of it that says anything about staying five leagues away from that border(though the public agreement that they signed did state that the two armies would stay five leagues away from each other). As I noted previously, Lincoln was quoting from the WRONG treaty and, IMHO, intentionally so. You need to understand, Ditto, that just because Lincoln said it doesn't make it so. The man was a habitual liar, and this speech was one of the many times when he did just that.

Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, General in Chief of the Army of Operations and President of the Republic of Mexico, before the Government established in Texas, solemnly pledges himself to fulfill the stipulations contained in the following Articles, so far as concerns himself.

Art. 1.

He will not take up arms nor cause them to be taken up against the People of Texas during the pres- ent War of Independence.

Art. 2d.

He will give his Orders that in the shortest time the Mexican Troops may leave the Territory of Texas.

Art. 3d.

He will so prepare matters in the Cabinet of Mexico that the Mission that may be sent thither by the Govern- ment of Texas, may be well received, and that by means of negociations all differences may be settled and the Independence that has been declared by the Convention may be acknowledged

Art. 4.

A treaty of Commerce, Amity and limits will be estab- lished between Mexico and Texas. The territory of the latter not to extend beyond the Rio. Bravo del Norte.

Art. 5th The prompt return of Genl. Santa Anna to Vera Cruz being indispensable for the purpose of effecting his solemn engagements, the Government of Texas will provide for his immediate embarkation for said port.

Art. 6th

This instrument being Obligatory on one part as well as on the other will be signed by duplicate, remaining folded and sealed untill the negociation shall have been concluded, when it will be restored to his Excellency General Santa Anna; no use of it to be made before that time unless there should be an infraction by either of the Contracting parties

Port of Velasco May 14. 1836

(Signed) David G. Burnet
Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna

James Collinsworth Sec. of State
Baily Hardiman Sec. of Treasury
P. H. Grayson Atty Genl.

39 posted on 05/02/2003 2:15:47 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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