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| May 1, 2003
| By Edgar Hall, Political Editor
Posted on 05/01/2003 11:06:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Well, well, well. And yet another anti-Freeper site springs up:
http://www.freerepublicsucks.s5.com/crackdownmay2003.htm
We must be doing something right to have so many Bush haters hating us so much.
Well, we wish you luck. You'll have plenty of competition from FR haters.
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To: Jim Robinson
It is a real relief having adults in the WH. I was listening to Mark Larson (So Cal talk radio host) this morning and the point was made that W is much more able to be real than his father was (Tony Snow had a lot to say on that subject) and frankly, he has impressed me a lot! He was handed a mess by that creature and her husband: a burst economic bubble, raped military and compromised foreign policy and he has managed to turn the country around quite well. His speech on the Lincoln was awesome.
And BTW, thanks for the refuge from leftist bilge. I am much more able to tolerate silly libs I come in contact with.
To: Anamensis
3 dogs and 3 cats here. Sometimes I think I'm crazy for having so many animals. But I love them all, even though I feel they rule my life!
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posted on
05/03/2003 12:20:39 AM PDT
by
DBtoo
To: Jim Robinson
It seems that FRS only exists for the sake of taking what is written here and reproducing, spinning, and taking out of context. Let's choke off their means of doing so by denying permission to our words.
I for one consider my posts here at Free Republic to be my property, and I claim copyright over my posts. I hope this raises no objection with the staff of FR, my only intention is to deny to trolls over at FRS the right to copy anything I post here. Since I know FRS is lurking here, I will publicly state the following:
PUBLIC NOTICE
My posts on Free Republic are Copyright 2003 Shadowman99. I grant my consent to Free Republic website to host my postings. My posts are not to be reproduced in whole or in part on another forum (ie Free Republic Sucks). Reproducing of any posts by me without my prior consent may result in civil action without further warning. Reproduction of posts by me will also be viewed as a binding agreement by the party responsible for reproduction to pay me $5000.00 (US dollars) for each occurrence. The forum hosting my words without my consent will also agree to pay me $5000.00 (US dollars) for each occurrence. I grant users of the Free Republic permission to quote from my posts so long as the quotation is used solely on Free Republic and not on any other forum.
End of Public notice.
To my fellow freepers - I grant you permission to copy and modify this public notice with your own name so that you may prevent FRS from reproducing your posts.
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Well, you should never forget that my response that you quoted above was directed to the author of a WSJ editorial who was trying to make light of and excuses for electing coke snorters to the presidency and that it would be no big deal if we elected another. It was kinda like a "sneakeasy" thing during prohibition. "Everyone did it." And, by the way, I did not accuse GWB of anything. The press was making the accusations, not me. I was just pissed that this particular author was making light of the situation and decided to tell her so. No, not everyone snorted coke or did drugs in their youth and there was no reason to make excuses for those who did.
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posted on
05/03/2003 12:25:56 AM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(FReepers are the GReatest!!)
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
And I wouldn't put much stake in what the Washington Post prints if I was you (unless you love spreading liberal propaganda).
425
posted on
05/03/2003 12:28:32 AM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(FReepers are the GReatest!!)
To: shadowman99
PUBLIC NOTICE My posts on Free Republic are Copyright 2003 Shadowman99. I grant my consent to Free Republic website to host my postings. My posts are not to be reproduced in whole or in part on another forum (ie Free Republic Sucks). Reproducing of any posts by me without my prior consent may result in civil action without further warning. Reproduction of posts by me will also be viewed as a binding agreement by the party responsible for reproduction to pay me $5000.00 (US dollars) for each occurrence. The forum hosting my words without my consent will also agree to pay me $5000.00 (US dollars) for each occurrence. I grant users of the Free Republic permission to quote from my posts so long as the quotation is used solely on Free Republic and not on any other forum.
Nuthin' for nuthin', that's actually kinda cool.
Heck, we talk all the time about this being "Jim Robinson's Forum", yet we still post here all the time.
But if we mean what we say (about this being "Jim Robinson's Forum"), then I guess you're arguing that our Posts are between Us... and Jim (who after all, owns the Website upon which they are hosted).
Kindofa a "reverse Wash-Post argument".
Not to suck up, but I kinda like that idea.
OP
426
posted on
05/03/2003 12:31:39 AM PDT
by
OrthodoxPresbyterian
(We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done our Duty)
To: shadowman99
Thank YOU !
I have had my posts CCPed, twisted , bent, and cherrypicked, and then posted to several anti-FR sites. It's dreadful, when that happens ; especially when those who post here and there and there and there FREEPmail one, with the link, so that one, who is blissfully ignorant of what they are doing over there , has it mashed into one's face. If they don't like FR, they should stay the bloody H off it !
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Yes, I'm in favor of ending the war on drugs at the federal level. It's just another criminal matter best left to the state and local authorities (with the possible exception of smuggling and interstate racketeering, etc.m which would still be federal matters).
But, no, I agree with and support the war on terror. This is in defense of the nation which is federal responsibility number one. International terrorists attacked and threatened us. We have every right to go after them in self-defense. And our Congress voted overwhelmingly to authorize our Commander-in-chief to do whatever it takes and to go wherever he needed to go to take them out. Too bad some people now have cold feet, but I'm certain that we are going to continue on and see this through. I think the people and the Congress are still with him on this.
428
posted on
05/03/2003 12:44:13 AM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(FReepers are the GReatest!!)
To: Jim Robinson
From what I've heard, the lawsuit protection bill for the gun industry was sabre rattling towards the democrats financial backers, but with the ruling on finance reform today, the sabre has no blade. It's understood in NJ that the bill will come to vote in the Senate, where they almost have the votes, then including a few GOP crossovers for the House, it will make the news. Jim, I've been here a long time now, the WashPost isn't doing anything more than floating balloons for the people pushing the renewal, they are not creating the agenda for this one. Too much money is at stake for the trial lawyers, who want to use the renewal bill to counter the lawsuit protection bill. And let me add, I haven't believed an article in the WashPost this millenium yet.
This site once railed against the use of words such as fringe, the "fringe" should continue to have a seat at this FR table, and should continue to be the mainstream conservative view on the 2A issue. I contend that this will be a point of contention here in a few months,
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posted on
05/03/2003 12:57:58 AM PDT
by
JerseyHighlander
(®(And I agree with R.Paul's stance on the lawsuit protection bill, to boot))
To: JerseyHighlander
Well, we shall see. I see no need to panic on rumor.
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posted on
05/03/2003 1:00:01 AM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(FReepers are the GReatest!!)
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
"...I guess you're arguing that our Posts are between Us... and Jim" That's the spirit of what I'm saying. In a nutshell, FR may host my words, and you may quote and respond to them on FR, but nowhere else. I also give you permission to reproduce the text of my public notice and substitute your own name in place of mine.
I am not a lawyer, so if there are any present who can offer suggestions for making the language more robust, let me know.
Since this is where the discussion is taking place that I am participating, I expect nobody should be too upset by this except FRS, DU, and others who would distort my words and deny me the chance to respond.
Comment #432 Removed by Moderator
To: shadowman99
433
posted on
05/03/2003 1:22:59 AM PDT
by
Roscoe
To: maxwell; Jim Robinson
I'll miss Illbay fretting over vanities. I thought of him as Illbay, the Vanity Moderator. He was entertaining and added personality. It's sad to hear he's been banned.
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posted on
05/03/2003 1:34:32 AM PDT
by
DBtoo
To: Jim Robinson; John Robinson; Lazamataz; RnMomof7; the_doc; Jerry_M; CCWoody
Yes, I'm in favor of ending the war on drugs at the federal level. It's just another criminal matter best left to the state and local authorities (with the possible exception of smuggling and interstate racketeering, etc.m which would still be federal matters).As such, you should probably ignore most of my #432 (I hadn't seen your #428 at the time of composition).
Personally, I consider the entire War on Drugs (Federal AND State) to be little more than a de facto New Jim Crow Segregationism -- "White Kids who smoke dope in the suburbs can get a slap on the wrist and go to Yale; Black Kids who smoke dope in the 'Hood can get a Criminal Record, enjoy some homosexual rape in Prison, and work at Burger King the rest of their lives."
But at least, if it ain't a Federal Case, you can always move to another State, be productive, and make a new life for yourself. It ain't perfect, but at least it's Federalism. I can agree with that.
I still have some disagreements with George W. Bush.
...the Billion$ for the Bush-Kennedy "education bill", the Billion$ for the "farm bill", the Billion$ of "steel tariffs" (screw you, Detroit!), the Billion$ for "faith-based socialism", the Billion$ for "tripled foreign aid" -- the whole bag. Remember this -- every single Dollar taken out of a Taxpayer's pocket, is a Dollar which that Taxpayer might have spent to purchase better Health Insurance for his children. Federal Spending actually kills real human beings.
It's easy to forget, Federal Spending actually kills real human beings. But you're self-employed yourself, and so is my own Mother -- so you know this. The Dollar that the Federal Government takes away today is the very same Dollar that the home-schooling father would have spent on his daughter's asthma medicine tomorrow.
Since 1965, the Federal Government has wasted over $6 Trillion Dollars on "Anti-Poverty Programs" -- enough to CUT EVERY POOR PERSON IN AMERICA (Man, Woman, Child, and Infant) A CHECK for $150,000 Dollars and simply say, "Here's $150 Grand of Other People's Money! You're NO LONGER POOR!!"
(Don't even get me started on adjusting that sum for inflation; I'd have to buy you a beer, so as we could both cry in our mugs)
And still the "War on Poverty" Rages. Still they keep exacting Tribute, subsidizing Poverty, encouraging Failure... and nothing changes.
9-11 is a Rare Case. It is an extremely rare case when the Federal Government acts in the Best Interest of its People.
Generally speaking, the Federal Government is not the Friend of the Citizenry. Generally speaking, the Federal Government is the implacable enemy of the Citizenry.
Under Bush, under Clinton, under the whole bloody lot.
As Deficits grow (and newborn children inherit $100,000 of Debt on their first birthday)... never forget.
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posted on
05/03/2003 1:36:07 AM PDT
by
OrthodoxPresbyterian
(We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done our Duty)
To: maxwell; Jim Robinson
Opps! Moderator=Monitor
436
posted on
05/03/2003 1:37:21 AM PDT
by
DBtoo
To: Jim Robinson
As such, you should probably ignore most of my #432 ~~ OP, post #435Hmm... never mind, the Moderator blitzed it anyway.
Comment #432 Removed by Moderator
No harm done, I just think it's kinda funny.
437
posted on
05/03/2003 1:39:15 AM PDT
by
OrthodoxPresbyterian
(We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done our Duty)
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Yes, and on and on the spiral spins. The Democrats take us deeper and deeper into the slime pits of hell and when the Republicans manage to get in, they never have the strength to do much about it. Slow it down a bit (sometimes) is about all they've been able to muster, even under one of the best that's come along in a long, long while, Ronald Reagan. Well, I'm not expecting any miracles, but we do have a rare opportunity here. We have a very popular president (possibly a Reagan in the making) and we have a Republican majority in both houses. Now is not the time to go weak-kneed and wobbly and turn it all back to the socialist Democrats. We need to give Bush a filibuster proof Senate and an unbeatable majority in the House. It's the only way we can possibly hope to break the cycle and end the spiral.
438
posted on
05/03/2003 1:48:00 AM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(FReepers are the GReatest!!)
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
I removed it. You've got FRmail.
439
posted on
05/03/2003 1:49:01 AM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(FReepers are the GReatest!!)
To: Jim Robinson; John Robinson; Lazamataz; RnMomof7; the_doc; Jerry_M; CCWoody
Yes, and on and on the spiral spins. The Democrats take us deeper and deeper into the slime pits of hell and when the Republicans manage to get in, they never have the strength to do much about it. Slow it down a bit (sometimes) is about all they've been able to muster, even under one of the best that's come along in a long, long while, Ronald Reagan. Well, I'm not expecting any miracles, but we do have a rare opportunity here. We have a very popular president (possibly a Reagan in the making) and we have a Republican majority in both houses. Now is not the time to go weak-kneed and wobbly and turn it all back to the socialist Democrats. We need to give Bush a filibuster proof Senate and an unbeatable majority in the House. It's the only way we can possibly hope to break the cycle and end the spiral.I agree 100%.
But let me say this... it's easy to give Ronald Reagan credit for defeating the Soviet Empire. Only a Liberal could deny Ronald Reagan the credit for almost single-handedly winning "World War III"
But Reagan did something else, too. It's a more economically-technical matter, but it matters -- Ronald Reagan managed to hold the growth of Domestic Spending in line with US Economic Growth. That sounds very abstruse, but it matters. It matters, in REAL FAMILY finances. It matters because Reagan, at least, did not spend away Mommy's cancer medication faster than Daddy could earn it.
By the standard of holding the growth of Domestic Spending in line with US Economic Growth -- "not spending Mommy's cancer medication faster than Daddy could earn it" -- You know who was the Second most "economically conservative" President (after Reagan) in the Post-WWII Era?
Was that because Bill Clinton was an "Economic Conservative"? No, it wasn't. It was because (at least for a time, until they destroyed him), we had a Newt Gingrich in Congress, telling Clinton to go piss up a rope.
That's why it annoys me to see Republicans in Congress give Bush carte blanche on new Domestic Spending. It annoys me to see FReepers treat Ron Paul -- our Hero in the Clinton years -- as a Pariah (maybe he is, indeed, wrong on the War. He's right on everything else).
I admit that there's a War on.
But let's be realistic. Reagan defeated the ENTIRE COMMUNIST EMPIRE while still holding domestic spending in line -- and he was up against Majority Leader Tip O'Neill, the Lion of the Democrats, not a bitter little Minority Leader midget like Tom Daschle.
For Bush to propose hundreds of billions in new Federal Education spending, hundreds of billions in new Farm spending, billions of Steel Tariffs, billions in "faith-based socialism", billions to triple Foreign Aid... this ain't "compassionate conservatism", it's just Republican Big Government (unlike Democrats, they will kill Terrorists. But just like Democrats, they'll spend away those Dollars you intended to devote to Grandma's long-term care insurance).
Bush ain't Reagan. And when he spends like a drunken sailor, there ain't no Newt Gingrich to tell him to go piss up a rope. The Republicans are giving him a blank check.
Don't get me wrong -- I remain in favor of "a filibuster proof Senate and an unbeatable majority in the House". If Bush can get his Judicial Appointments through, maybe us Pro-Lifers will have a snowball's chance in hell. And I'm in favor of that.
But I bloody well have to be. As the deficits approach $500 Billion, if "Compassionate Conservative" Bush does not cut back his obsession with spending other people's money, we'll HAVE to end Abortion -- just so we have enough newborn children to inherit $200 Thousand of debt apiece upon their first birthday, rather than much more.
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posted on
05/03/2003 2:33:47 AM PDT
by
OrthodoxPresbyterian
(We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done our Duty)
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