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To: betty boop; Anybody
Thanks from the peanut gallery. But...

...I think it is also to be said that the very gift of being a being, '...created in the image of God' and 'self-directional' is not only something that God wouldn't take back, but that it is something of perfectly good 'AND' surpassing? undiminished value (especially when one is being sensible enough to accept God's being God, but even if one is not).

In so stating, I'm tending to push my chips to the middle of the table to say that even pain and suffering and evil as we may choose to call all the consequences of our disobedient motivations are of God's goodness and how do you like them "apples?" (Scriptures inform us that God makes the blacksmith that forges idols, that Satan can bargain with Job in a place in Heaven, God is known to have sent a lying spirit into the nasty mouths of false prophets, to cause calamities, etc.) One might even say that all suffering is an initial part of rectification. BUT, God doesn't cause the disobedient motivations that sinners have. Those are totally of our own creation and of will which yet, is an inherently a good thing to have and never ceases to be.

And eventually, the corrupt strand in space/time will be "rolled up" and evil wills shall be removed from any causality I think, or what is the fire for? Picking up on what you just said about God's true perspective vs. ours, I think we who know him will then have enough of it to see, face to face, as much of the truth of it as we care to, including as much logic as we wish to play with.

I don't see how from our "human perspective" we would be caused by empiricism to see God as having the contradiction, though it could seem extremely apparent by our logic and uninformed bases. Of course I have based these views upon axioms, but so even are our "principles" of empiricism. Please inform if I'm stepping on epistemological daisies that I don't see here.

Another way of saying it all is that instead of diminishing God's goodness and power (to do what he chooses as he maintains integrity) we should make sure we don't diminish what perfect things he has given us, in both the conveyed power to make decisions and the ability to be seen by God as good and good how? -- by one's most apt decision.

And now I too, will humbly hope to have my meat and drink.

643 posted on 05/06/2003 6:42:20 PM PDT by unspun (Roamin' catholic....)
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Now I'm not saying that people don't do evil or that God does. I'm saying that the intentions are the human evil and the rest is all the rest is a part of being vulnerable to God's punishment of evil. Evil for evil, so to speak, for our three score and ten.

If anyone cares to, let's look up "evil" in biblegateway.com and see how it tends to refer to "intention" at "heart," even in the OT.

Enough from the gallery.

644 posted on 05/06/2003 7:01:09 PM PDT by unspun (Roamin' catholic....)
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