If you will look at my posts, you will see that what I said is far from a liberal marxist attack on our country...read your posts, and you will see that is what you have tried to make it appear like. Of course every single civilisation has been oppresive...that is the point I was trying to make about morality being relative. Why you kept bringing our countries birth into it, I don't know. I used our country 2 times as an example, but I could have, and did, try to make it clear that I was speaking about mankind, not our country alone. I did not intend to call you a marxist. I was merely making a point about our history. I understand you were speaking about mankind, however, different societies have different moral practices and beliefs. Which one is right? How do you adjudicate between societies with conflicting moral practices? What is the standard? Who says murder is wrong?
Your last statement is why I believe there is no morally absolute behavior in man, it's all relative.