[Roscoe]

Even if you think you can inductively reason your way into axioms, you're just pushing the assumption back a step by assuming that the inductive principle is itself true, when it is definitely unproven, and probably unprovable.

No problem. Just call the assumptions self-evident.

[tpaine]

"call the assumptions self-evident."
-roscoe-


Backed by our constitutional experience, they have been proven self evident.

[general_re]

Just call the assumptions self-evident.

One would think that a completely objective philosophy shouldn't need that sort of crutch, but there you go. Even Thomas Jefferson didn't claim that "these truths are self-evident", merely that "we hold these truths to be self-evident". And TJ was no dummy - presumably, if he could have proven them, he would have...