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To: exmarine; All; Hank Kerchief; RJCogburn
u: BTW, Randites ignore that Fascism is corporate management of government...

xm: True, and it is also a form of socialism just like communism is. The Nazis were the National "Socialist" Party. Both systems are socialistic, the primary difference being that communism is much more centralized. I'm not certain that AR understood this about socialism. Did she?


While I haven't taken the time to delve in detail into all the muck of Randism, I see a big gap in anything proposed by Randites, about how to check monopolies, oligopolies, and the Fascism that results. And yes, this sure becomes a form of socialism and moves sharply toward totalitarianism.

Frankly, I've also found a pretty blind eye given to the tyranny of monopolies by many actual conservatives too, including our champion, Rush.


Anyone out there care to explicate, how the atheist philosopher novelist who is the topic of this thread purports to prevent this degradation of free enterprise in the direction of shrugging oligopolistic Fascists, in her imported revisionistic concoctions?
271 posted on 05/01/2003 4:55:00 PM PDT by unspun (It's not about you.)
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To: unspun
Monopolies and the like only exist, because of govm't support and protection. It's their use of govm't coercive force that enables it. That coercive force includes the ability to raid pockets and distribute wealth for the purposes of maintaining a support base in the electorate.

Rand's philosophy prohibits the theft of wealth and property, because it is a violation of the noninitiation of force principle. That alone would cut off the funding for the bribery that occurs every election cycle. That same principle would forbid the govm't from creating rules that eliminate the competition for large, well established orgs.

276 posted on 05/01/2003 5:14:53 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: unspun
Frankly, I've also found a pretty blind eye given to the tyranny of monopolies by many actual conservatives too, including our champion, Rush.

All monopolies are temporary, and if you take a short enough time slice, you may find that everything is a monopoly. Monopolies achieved in the free market are beneficial. When they no longer are, they soon lose their monopoly status.

356 posted on 05/02/2003 3:31:30 AM PDT by laredo44
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To: unspun
Anyone out there care to explicate, how the atheist philosopher novelist who is the topic of this thread purports to prevent this degradation of free enterprise in the direction of shrugging oligopolistic Fascists, in her imported revisionistic concoctions?

The competition of the market always blocks the oligopolistic direction you fear. Rand reveres the market.

357 posted on 05/02/2003 3:35:20 AM PDT by laredo44
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