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To: Hank Kerchief
Well not exactly...Rand and the objectivists tend to think that casual sex is a good thing...Her books often indirectly espouse this...as long as two individuals decide together that tonight is a good thing then it is...but of course since Rand has no basis for a moral code ( such as the belief in God) then the moral code is always changeab;e depending on who is doing the deciding. The thing that seems to always be the most attractive about objectivism and Rand's books is that it calls to the heart of an individual...the ability to stand with grace and dignity against the howling mobs...I agree one should stand but I will take my examples from the likes of Martin Luther ('here stand I. I can do no other) or william Wallace or Condi Rice ( for a more modern perspective) and yes even GW (I will do what is best for the American people)
22 posted on 05/01/2003 9:46:29 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: jnarcus; RJCogburn
...since Rand has no basis for a moral code ( such as the belief in God)...

So, a moral code has nothing to do with what is good for a human being. If a moral code is based on the nature of man, the requirements of human nature for happiness and success in this world, and the principles that must be followed to fulfill those requirements, that is without basis.

But a moral code that comes from the Koran (or anyone else's book) and teaches that women must be covered from head to toe, else beaten or killed, that is a moral code with a basis.

... moral code is always changeable depending on who is doing the deciding ...

Moral principles are not "decided" any more than the princple of chemistry are decided, they are discovered. They are determined by the nature of those beings to whom moral values pertain, rational/volitional beings, and the nature of the world in which they live.

It is religious moral values that change, because they are arbitrary, having no rational basis and dependent on the nothing but the whim of a deity, who can yesterday demand obedience to a levitical law, for example, but today condemnd that same practice as defying grace.

Hank

31 posted on 05/01/2003 10:08:54 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: jnarcus
Your assertion that objectivists think casual sex is a good thing is 100% false. In fact, there was a whole section in either Atlas Shrugged or The Fountainhead in which one of the main characters lectured on the subject.
68 posted on 05/01/2003 11:37:24 AM PDT by LanPB01
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To: jnarcus
Rand and the objectivists tend to think that casual sex is a good thing

That's not my understanding. My understanding is that she believed that sex was too good or too valuable to be given away casually!

797 posted on 05/09/2003 6:50:58 PM PDT by F-117A
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