[spunkets]

"The argument is about whether we humans have a moral right to do to each other what we do to other species, and what other members of species do to each other. The evidence in this regard points to the conclusion that it is OK, "if you can get away with it."

There is no moral right to do any such thing. That is the natural order of the immoral. There is nothing moral about it.

Moral codes and their fundamental principles are created by rational beings for a purpose. They are not found in nature. Nature is governed by nonrational automatic forces. The forces involved in moral guidance are derived from their creation by rational beings.

[Roscoe]

There is no moral right to do any such thing. That is the natural order of the immoral. There is nothing moral about it.

It's pure self-interest in action.