[Roscoe]

[Crime often pays. If self-interest is the sole standard for judging, the only rational rule is "don't get caught".]

According to whose values?

The values of those who have denounced altruism. (Assuming that they are rational and self-consistent.)

[Hank Kerchief]

[Crime often pays. If self-interest is the sole standard for judging, the only rational rule is "don't get caught".]

According to whose values?

The values of those who have denounced altruism. (Assuming that they are rational and self-consistent.)

The question meant according to whose values does crime pay? I don't think your answer pertained to that. If it did, it means, those who oppose altuism believe crime pays, or that what is gained by means of crime is of real value.

That's an odd view, and one I've never heard any anti-altruist advance.

Nevertheless, this anti-altruist does not agree that gain via crime (I mean stealing, not breaking arbitraty government laws) is not good, and not a positive value.

How can that possibly be good? In what value system?

Hank