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Tongue-splitting ban slices its way through Legislature
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | May 1, 2003 | BRYAN SMITH

Posted on 05/01/2003 3:16:36 AM PDT by sarcasm

Lawmakers have been known to split hairs.

Splitting tongues, they're not so crazy about.

So David Miller, the state representative from Calumet City and a practicing dentist, is serious when he talks about recent legislation he's introduced.

Miller, a Democrat, is sponsoring a bill that would all but ban what has become the latest craze in "body modification"--slicing the tongue in half to create a reptilian appearance.

It's a practice akin to body piercings and tattoos. But detractors like Miller say it carries risks of infection and even death if not performed by licensed medical people and surgeons.

That's why Miller wants to ensure that only physicians perform the procedure, and for sound medical reasons.

If properly done the procedure isn't necessarily harmful, he acknowledges. Still, it's a trend he'd rather not see catch on.

"You know how fads are," he said. "You just never know what's going to happen. We just thought we'd be pro-active."

According to a Web site devoted to the practice, as well as other procedures such as body piercings and tattoos, tongue splitting is the "central bifurcation of the tongue, so as to achieve a 'forked tongue' appearance."

Some people have split their tongue by getting a large number of tongue piercings, stretching them, and then cutting between them, said Shannon Larratt, who runs www.bmezine.com, and had his own tongue split in 1997.

Others have turned to oral surgeons or tattoo parlors. An Albany, N.Y., doctor did his, Larratt said, and he encourages those who want their tongues split to seek a surgeon, too.

But many medical professionals highly discourage the practice.

Among the risks are striking an artery or the tongue becoming so swollen the patient can't breathe. Massive tongue hemorrhage, edema, abscess formation, tetanus and nerve damage are other reported complications, doctors say.

Larratt doesn't deny those risks. In fact, he said, the danger of people seeking poorly done "back alley" jobs are precisely why it should be legal.

"A lot of these laws are worded in ways that make it very difficult for a doctor to do it," he said. "What that means is that the qualified practitioners and doctors don't want to risk losing their licenses. So the only people left doing it are hacks that shouldn't be doing it in the first place."

The bill, also endorsed by state Sen. James T. Meeks and similar to legislation in Michigan, has passed the Senate Judiciary Committee and now awaits consideration by the full Senate.

"There's really no reason someone should be splitting his or her tongue," Meeks said. "We are simply trying to keep people from hurting themselves."

Larratt sees it differently. "We don't question a person if they want to go in and get just about every other procedure," he said. "Why target this one in such an extreme fashion?"


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To: laredo44
Yes, Van Goth did cut of his ear. One "expert" recently stated that it was allegedly because of some condition (I missed the first part of his comments) which apparently caused ringing in his ear.
61 posted on 05/01/2003 8:06:10 AM PDT by Dante3 (.)
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To: OldPossum
The question I have is: how do they sound when they speak?

Like Hillary!™...

62 posted on 05/01/2003 8:12:05 AM PDT by null and void
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To: sarcasm
I say it's sheer government oppression! Why, you let them prevent people from cutting their tongues in half and pretty soon it'll be illegal to slice your penis into serving portions with a dull butter knife and then where will we be, huh? Huh?

I didn't think you'd have an answer to that...

63 posted on 05/01/2003 8:14:09 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: no one in particular
Not that far removed from what my former collection of roommates looked like....
64 posted on 05/01/2003 8:14:45 AM PDT by null and void
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To: AppyPappy
Your point is well taken.


65 posted on 05/01/2003 8:15:16 AM PDT by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: meyer
OK, let me be the first to say that I think splitting ones' tongue is stupid - very stupid. But does the government - at any level - really have to try to outlaw stupidity?

The bill is not about tongue-splitting, it's about regulating tongue-splitters.

It's a public health issue. The government can and should regulate those in the tongue-splitting business, in the same way they can and should regulate tattoo parlors (which are great places to catch things like Hepatitis C).

66 posted on 05/01/2003 8:20:11 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: You Dirty Rats
And with the split toungue, its natural with some people like Hillery Clinton.
67 posted on 05/01/2003 8:25:16 AM PDT by oyez (Is this a great country or what?)
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To: AppyPappy
Yes but the government IS in the medical business. If you get them out, I don't care what you do.

I wish I COULD get them out of the medical business. This isn't the best example of excessive intrusion, but as long as my health is looked at as an expense by the government, they can and will gain an increasingly larger degree of control over my life and my behavior (and yours too, of course). Its a slippery slope upon which we should not travel.

68 posted on 05/01/2003 9:29:02 AM PDT by meyer
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To: Billthedrill
I say it's sheer government oppression! Why, you let them prevent people from cutting their tongues in half and pretty soon it'll be illegal to slice your penis into serving portions with a dull butter knife and then where will we be, huh? Huh?

To the extent that your name may resemble something phallic, I would think that we'd be at a point where we might call you "Billthestump". :^) j/k, of course.

69 posted on 05/01/2003 9:31:46 AM PDT by meyer
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To: Nathaniel Fischer
Yes, I read about that girl also on this site. However, I don't know what happened to the case. I'm totally fed up with these lawsuits.

It is my understanding that it is the intent to prohibit toungue spliting (unless medically necessary which it is almost never). Yet we permit so-called "sex-change" operations. There are even these cute slogans such as "a female mind in a male body" which is just pure nonsense. I suppose under this argument, those wanting tongue spliting can claim they are a repitale or snake or whatever in a human body.

And what about the plastic surgeries of Micheal Jackson (the mind of a white woman in the body of a black male?), Joan Rivers (she looks awful and scary) and Joceylene Wildenstein (who wants to look like a lion)?

71 posted on 05/02/2003 4:08:37 AM PDT by Dante3 (.)
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To: kcvl
No they are not nuts. They are possessed.
72 posted on 05/13/2003 7:26:52 PM PDT by mercy
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The nice thing about body mutilaters (ors?) is that they sort of self regulate ... if you get my drift. The bad thing is that it might be your kid ... but then ... I guess it works there too.

I very nearly self regulated myself a few decades ago. Didn't quite make it but it was probably just an accident. Those who do not parent will pay an enormous price.
73 posted on 05/13/2003 7:33:06 PM PDT by mercy
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To: kcvl
Isn't that stealing? Did you happen to ask Shannon if you could use his copyrighted photos?
75 posted on 11/02/2004 5:36:12 PM PST by bottlepndr (Bet you don't mind women with breast implants and face lifts.)
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To: Eagle Eye

Tongue-splitting ban slices its way through Legislature


Thats the attention getting headline of the day


Say that fast!


76 posted on 11/02/2004 5:40:00 PM PST by rightgrafix
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To: sarcasm

(sarcasm) I think tongue-splitting should be manditory for getting a law license. At least then you know you are dealing with a 'fork-tongue' lawyer. ;D


77 posted on 11/02/2004 5:43:54 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: kcvl
That's nothing

BEHOLD LIZARDMAN!!


78 posted on 11/02/2004 6:02:57 PM PST by philetus (Zell Miller - One of the few)
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To: unixfox
i fully agree on that and if the government were to make body modification illegal wouldn't that deny us of our freedom. its our bodies we should be able to do what we please to it. even if its a bad idea. let us learn for ourselves. and you people shouldn't say were bad people cuz of split tongues or peircings or tatoos. you should call us bad people if you really think we are and you would have to know us to do that. saying were bad people just cuz of body modifications is just like being racist. nazis didnt like jews cuz they were jews you dont like us just cuz of modifications. if your to hate someone hate then for their mind not body.
79 posted on 09/17/2005 10:54:15 AM PDT by down to earth
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To: down to earth
you should call us bad people if you really think we are and you would have to know us to do that. saying were bad people just cuz of body modifications is just like being racist. nazis didnt like jews cuz they were jews you dont like us just cuz of modifications.

It seems like one's ability to express a coherent thought is directly proportional to the amount of time they've been a member of Free Republic.

80 posted on 09/17/2005 11:00:48 AM PDT by Junior_G
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