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Tongue-splitting ban slices its way through Legislature
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | May 1, 2003 | BRYAN SMITH

Posted on 05/01/2003 3:16:36 AM PDT by sarcasm

Lawmakers have been known to split hairs.

Splitting tongues, they're not so crazy about.

So David Miller, the state representative from Calumet City and a practicing dentist, is serious when he talks about recent legislation he's introduced.

Miller, a Democrat, is sponsoring a bill that would all but ban what has become the latest craze in "body modification"--slicing the tongue in half to create a reptilian appearance.

It's a practice akin to body piercings and tattoos. But detractors like Miller say it carries risks of infection and even death if not performed by licensed medical people and surgeons.

That's why Miller wants to ensure that only physicians perform the procedure, and for sound medical reasons.

If properly done the procedure isn't necessarily harmful, he acknowledges. Still, it's a trend he'd rather not see catch on.

"You know how fads are," he said. "You just never know what's going to happen. We just thought we'd be pro-active."

According to a Web site devoted to the practice, as well as other procedures such as body piercings and tattoos, tongue splitting is the "central bifurcation of the tongue, so as to achieve a 'forked tongue' appearance."

Some people have split their tongue by getting a large number of tongue piercings, stretching them, and then cutting between them, said Shannon Larratt, who runs www.bmezine.com, and had his own tongue split in 1997.

Others have turned to oral surgeons or tattoo parlors. An Albany, N.Y., doctor did his, Larratt said, and he encourages those who want their tongues split to seek a surgeon, too.

But many medical professionals highly discourage the practice.

Among the risks are striking an artery or the tongue becoming so swollen the patient can't breathe. Massive tongue hemorrhage, edema, abscess formation, tetanus and nerve damage are other reported complications, doctors say.

Larratt doesn't deny those risks. In fact, he said, the danger of people seeking poorly done "back alley" jobs are precisely why it should be legal.

"A lot of these laws are worded in ways that make it very difficult for a doctor to do it," he said. "What that means is that the qualified practitioners and doctors don't want to risk losing their licenses. So the only people left doing it are hacks that shouldn't be doing it in the first place."

The bill, also endorsed by state Sen. James T. Meeks and similar to legislation in Michigan, has passed the Senate Judiciary Committee and now awaits consideration by the full Senate.

"There's really no reason someone should be splitting his or her tongue," Meeks said. "We are simply trying to keep people from hurting themselves."

Larratt sees it differently. "We don't question a person if they want to go in and get just about every other procedure," he said. "Why target this one in such an extreme fashion?"


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To: not-an-ostrich
Self-mutilation is a mental illness.

Yes, it certainly is. And there's always a doctor ready to help....

A New Way to Be Mad, an article in the Atlantic Monthly not for the squeamish but fortunately, not grim photos either, about individuals who desire to have limbs and body parts amputated. It very much describes the same sentiment as those seeking sexual reassignment surgery.

21 posted on 05/01/2003 4:05:59 AM PDT by hotpotato
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To: sarcasm; meyer; mhking

22 posted on 05/01/2003 4:07:45 AM PDT by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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To: All
Why do these people do things like this?

Rather like a dog licking its private parts. Because they can. Some people have so little perceived control of their circumstances, that they turn to the one thing that they are sure they are mostly in control of - their own bodies, up to and including the perception of pain. Thus we have plastic surgery phreaques, bulimics, anorexics, gross obesity, even homosexuals, who "cannot" help being what they are. This is their only outlet for self-expression, and if you take that away, they lose their only justificaton for existence.
23 posted on 05/01/2003 4:29:25 AM PDT by alloysteel
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To: meyer
The government has the right to decide who can perform the procedure because the government may have to pay to clean it up.
24 posted on 05/01/2003 4:31:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: tet68
When stupidity is outlawed, only democrats will rule.

Kind of ironic - no?

25 posted on 05/01/2003 4:46:44 AM PDT by trebb
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To: sarcasm
I would treat them like reptiles!
26 posted on 05/01/2003 5:12:31 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5 % of the time.)
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To: sarcasm
Good Lord, man! Those photos are too graphic! How much does a man have to hate himself to mutilate himself like that?
27 posted on 05/01/2003 5:18:04 AM PDT by Loyalist
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To: AppyPappy
because the government may have to pay to clean it up.

And under what Constitutional authority have they been given that right?;-)

28 posted on 05/01/2003 5:18:55 AM PDT by StriperSniper (Frogs are for gigging)
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To: StriperSniper
And under what Constitutional authority have they been given that right?;-)

Irrelevant. They now have it.

29 posted on 05/01/2003 5:25:23 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: meyer
I do not want to ever split my tongue. If my kid did it, I would do anything I can to stop it. However, I find a scary tend of the government more and more controlling everything about our lives. Of cameras following us in many places. Of private information about us kept in files.

Freedom means also the freedom to do stupid things, the freedom to fail, the freedom to chose our associates on any basis of any criteria, the freedom to dislike others.

30 posted on 05/01/2003 5:26:07 AM PDT by Dante3 (.)
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To: sarcasm
All fork-tounged freaks will be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.
31 posted on 05/01/2003 5:27:36 AM PDT by BigBadWolf
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To: kcvl
Yuk! Where did you find those pictures? I hear the body modification is growing, has been an underground movement for decades (since Kogelhoffer or whatever that artists name is who cut off a part of himself).
32 posted on 05/01/2003 5:28:59 AM PDT by Dante3 (.)
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To: Dante3
Type in "body modification" and GOOGLE it...


http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=body+modification
33 posted on 05/01/2003 5:30:50 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Dante3
I like to be able to sort out the freaks I want nothing to do with by sight. It's much easier than trying to figure their politics before deciding they're losers.
34 posted on 05/01/2003 5:33:44 AM PDT by fml (freedom begins with W!)
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To: sarcasm
The gene pool must be cleaned.
35 posted on 05/01/2003 5:34:41 AM PDT by verity
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To: AppyPappy
I must say I greatly recent having our tax money used for "cleaning up." People who do stupid things should take you responsibility for their acts.
36 posted on 05/01/2003 5:34:54 AM PDT by Dante3 (.)
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To: tet68
When stupidity is outlawed, only democrats will rule.

But to be a democrat is to be stupid. They'd outlaw themselves. Reminds me of an older Star Trek episode. "I am Nomad. I must destroy imperfection."

37 posted on 05/01/2003 5:35:10 AM PDT by meyer
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To: meyer
Yes, the government SHOULD outlaw stupidity. That would make Teddy Kennedy Public Enemy #1.

38 posted on 05/01/2003 5:36:13 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats
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To: not-an-ostrich
Self-mutilation is a mental illness.

In which case I have to take back my initial commentary - people like this aren't capable of taking care of themselves. Having seen some of the pictures, I can say that there is an infantile mentality that would cause one to mutilate theirself to the extent I've seen here. Perhaps there is some need for oversight, much as a parent needs to look after a rogue child.

39 posted on 05/01/2003 5:38:31 AM PDT by meyer
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To: AppyPappy
The government has the right to decide who can perform the procedure because the government may have to pay to clean it up.

That's a very good reason to get and keep the government out of the insurance business!

40 posted on 05/01/2003 5:40:14 AM PDT by meyer
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