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To: NovemberCharlie; Dog Gone
After the Slaughterhouse Cases, the Court changed its position on the Amendment, thus giving us incorporation.

No kidding. Have you read the full opinion? I haven't yet, but the history therein promises to be most interesting reading. The rise of corporations funded by European money just after the Civil War was the reason I had developed an interest in the 14th Amendment. The owners of the "charitable" foundations that came out of that period have played a key role in the global institutional corruption that has its nexxus at the UN. What that trend portends is probably well understood from the predative history of the Dutch East India corporation cited therein. I am intent upon studying the foundation of what I suspect is a legal house of cards.

It is highly unlikely that the Court would rule the same way today, or use it as a precedent.

Excuse me, but that sounds just like the "living Constitution" crap we get from liberals, who only use precedents that are convenient to fit their agenda. Are you asserting that the current court, or that which is likely to be appointed by President Bush will continue to pay obeiscance to habitual flaunting of the Constitution by the Executive Branch? I agree that it might.

The interesting thing about the ruling is that the Court had access to the intent of the drafters of the 14th Amendment. A constructionist court would therefore interpret the Amendment per its intent and meaning when ratified. If the people want something different, they can pass a new amendment offering citizenship to whoever they wish.

Such an Amendment wouldn't pass either, would it?

So we get the ideological ilk of Bridges v. Wixon, 326 US 35 (1945) the work of a fully packed Roosevelt court. It is a case that carries far less weight interpreting the 14th Amendment (at least in the objective sense) than does the Slaughterhouse Cases however well habituated those corporations have become to the destruction of our national sovereignty.

Further, should those who advocate reasserting the sovereignty of the United States and demand that it control its borders find out that Constitutional law, as written and interpreted by the SCOTUS, has been TOTALLY contradicted by the government, the anger that fact will generate might well weaken the political will to continue with the current policy. Don't you think Mr. Tancredo would like this little paragraph in his hands? I do.

Finally, the States have borne the cost of maintaining social services for the children of aliens based upon the fraudulent premise that those services were being dispensed to American citizens. The States would thus have stronger cause to demand compensation from the Federal government for those costs.

I agree with you that the Slaughterhouse cases have not oft been cited, but the reason for that may well be more confirmation of its import than it is reason to ignore it.

8 posted on 04/29/2003 11:29:43 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie
No kidding. Have you read the full opinion? I haven't yet, but the history therein promises to be most interesting reading. The rise of corporations funded by European money just after the Civil War was the reason I had developed an interest in the 14th Amendment. A very admirable pursuit, especially considering the questionable ratification of that Amendment that has so consostently bedevilled conservatives. Excuse me, but that sounds just like the "living Constitution" crap we get from liberals...

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I agree with you that the Slaughterhouse cases have not oft been cited, but the reason for that may well be more confirmation of its import than it is reason to ignore it.

What I meant is that the Court have been known to change their minds. Depending entirely on precedent can be a very bad thing when the original opinion was wrong. Still in all, I happen to wish the Court had stuck with the original in this case.
65 posted on 04/30/2003 4:00:13 PM PDT by NovemberCharlie
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