African Women and AIDS {African AIDS due to UN pop con efforts, NOT heterosuxual behavior}

PRI Weekly News Briefing ^ | 29 April 2003 | Steve Mosher

[gcruse]

Dry sex is being touted as a major AIDS force in Africa.

[Polycarp]

Of course, we justify the need for our contraceptive imperialism by pointing out the "overpopulation" of the developing countries. The concept of poverty versus overpopulation needs close scrutiny. Poverty can be defined as too many people for the resources available in a geographic region. When we see humans living in poverty, we feel a certain solidarity with them. Our consciences tell us of our duty to help them out of their misery with food, shelter, infrastructure, and the means to develop their economy.

Remember that verbal engineering always precedes social engineering. By calling poverty by a new name, "overpopulation," we remove the burden for their suffering from our conscience. No longer do we feel the need to feed them. We now can say, "It's your fault. If you'd just stop making babies, you wouldn't be living in poverty. Your suffering is your own creation." So instead of corn meal, we ship them condoms. Instead of antibiotics, we send them IUDs. Instead of the blessing infrastructure would bring, we send the curse of infertility.

[Polycarp]

Yes, I know. It causes a breakdown in the normal barriers to STDs in general, and AIDS in particular.

Not to be forgotten is the symbiotic effect of STDs in making sex partners prone to HIV transmission.

STDs multiply manyfold the likelihood of contracting HIV from ANY type of sexual behavior because of the multiple lesions/breaks in skin and mucous membrane barriers. Dry sex has a similar effect due to the caustic nature of many of the things used to achieve "dry sex."

[A. Pole]

Women and girls account for such a high percentage of HIV/AIDS victims in Africa because they are infected during procedures designed to disable their reproductive systems and prevent them from conceiving or bearing children.

Or is it matter of false reporting? (To get funding)

[Polycarp]

see post 18

[ninenot]

Remember Gomer's character talking to Andy???

"Surpraaahs, Surpraaahhhs, Sur PRAAAAAHhhhhsss"

The UN is incapable of running a clean clinic. And just today, they elected Cuba to the Human Rights High Commission.

[ninenot]

You probably want to read post #13 (and be sure to read the author's name/title) before you go all gaga about someone actually suggesting that the UN could possibly be wrong.

The UN has also been wrong about the population explosion, famines, and the war in Rwanda, which the UN ignored.

Why do you think that the UN is right about AIDS in Africa?

[ninenot]

You are being far too kind.

The fact of the matter is that the Fords, Rockefellers, and Johnsons simply don't give a rip about black and Asian people. They are racist, as was the mother of all this crap who was also the founderette of Planned Parenthood.

You don't have to draw inferences from delicately-phrased and parsed spin, either. During hearings over the efficacy of DDT and the global ban, a Congressman asked a FordFoundation apparatchik whether the ban would not have a detrimental effect on the people of SE Asia (the malaria would return..) and in reply, the apparatchik said "So what? They're just little brown people."

If the blacks in this country EVER knew how racist and elitist these "liberal" outfits really are, there would be a GREAT DEAL of burning buildings on Foundation Row in NYC.

[ninenot]

Or is it matter of false reporting? (To get funding)

NOT an either/or proposition. BOTH is the answer.

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[Lorianne]

Absolutely, and most of the measures cited do not involve needles or invasive procedures, such as the Pill, condoms, Norplant.

There is a correlation between vaccinations and other injections and HIV/AIDS transmission because of unsterilized needles used.

[Polycarp]

most of the measures cited do not involve needles or invasive procedures, such as the Pill, condoms, Norplant.

Norplant is not an invasive surgical procedure also involving needles (local anesthetic)?

Your statement is pathetically in error.

Depo provera (an injection) and Norplant (a surgical implantation) are methods of choice in Third World Clinics.

Both involve needles and/or invasive procedures.

--Dr. Kopp

[Susannah]

Based on the UN's performance to date, it's probably a good place to meet to get the gist of the problem...then, what ever the UN concludes as the appropriate action...Do the opposite.

I've been to the UN website. They are in violation of their own charter. Will someone tell them?

[Servant of the Nine]

And it is also irrefutable that for every dollar spent on buying sterile needles, multiple dollars are spent on contraceptive/abortifacient drugs, devices, and paraphernalia that would be far better spent on basic health care measures.

NO.

If population is to remain at suportable levels, then the birth rates and death rates must remain in balance. If anything, we should be spending more on birth control and less on fighting disease in most parts of the world, including the United States.

So9

[ninenot]

My recommendation, yet to be acted on by Congress, the President, or the Department of State, is that we cut our contribution by 75%, to get the UN's attention.

We can proceed from there.

[lepton]

This would parallel the tendency for food-aid programs to result in the total denuding of the landscape local to the distribution points, and a further societal breakdown. A little help, developing a dependency, which in turn causes great damage in side-effects.

[lepton]

By calling poverty by a new name, "overpopulation," we remove the burden for their suffering from our conscience. No longer do we feel the need to feed them. We now can say, "It's your fault. If you'd just stop making babies, you wouldn't be living in poverty. Your suffering is your own creation."

Not to mention no longer needing to admit that governmental socialism causes devastation to the poor. It instead now just provides further justification for authoritarinaism.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Good post!

[lepton]

If anything, we should be spending more on birth control and less on fighting disease in most parts of the world, including the United States.

I suspect increased military spending would be more helpful.

And as for your general premise, if you believe anything from the U.N., their latest figures point to a world-wide population collapse.

[ninenot]

Damn!!!

You've figured out what "supportable levels" are?

Get thee to the UN. They have a job for you!!