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To: Poohbah
What about all the articles we read here for free instead of subscribing to the magazines or newspapers that run them? Aren't we thieves as well?

And don't rationalize it by saying that these articles are mostly available for free online. If you notice, those websites run ads and the rates for those ads are dependent upon traffic for the site. If the articles are posted here, traffic to their site is reduced and their ad revenues are reduced.

BTW, I fully support Free Republic's right to have the articles posted here. I'm just making the argument that it's technically the same thing as file-swapping MP3s.

Personally, I think the music industry benefits by the trading of MP3s as more people are exposed to the music, many of which will eventually purchase the CD and/or attend the concerts of the recording act in question. I also think newspapers and magazines gain a wider readership by exposure on sites like Free Republic. (Though it would help if we all got in the habit of clicking the source link so that the web traffic of the sites providing the articles are duly compensated.)

41 posted on 04/29/2003 1:59:52 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (California wine beats French wine in blind taste tests. Boycott French wine.)
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To: SamAdams76
What about all the articles we read here for free instead of subscribing to the magazines or newspapers that run them? Aren't we thieves as well?

Exactly.

42 posted on 04/29/2003 2:02:25 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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To: SamAdams76
FR does respect the terms of the sites in question.

The LA Slimes and the Washington ComPost demand that we only post excerpts. We do that.

Others do not require that.

The RIAA's position is that they don't want folks distributing copies, particularly en masse.

One may not like it--but one should respect it, or get used to being considered a thief.
45 posted on 04/29/2003 2:04:11 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: SamAdams76
Looking forward to the response from poo to your last post.

Interesting debate.
48 posted on 04/29/2003 2:06:10 PM PDT by borkrules
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To: SamAdams76
BTW, I fully support Free Republic's right to have the articles posted here. I'm just making the argument that it's technically the same thing as file-swapping MP3s.

Personally, I think the music industry benefits by the trading of MP3s as more people are exposed to the music, many of which will eventually purchase the CD and/or attend the concerts of the recording act in question. I also think newspapers and magazines gain a wider readership by exposure on sites like Free Republic. (Though it would help if we all got in the habit of clicking the source link so that the web traffic of the sites providing the articles are duly compensated.)

There are a number of issues here. While we conservatives may not agree with the RIAA's members on many (most/all) political stances, what's at stake here is simply protection of private property. In short, the musician or artist who creates the song lets the record company distribute it for him or her. And don't give me this nonsense about how it's unfair: the record companies take all the risk. They have the right to control distribution of intellectual property, just as book publishers have the right to control distribution of their books. If you went and photocopied a book, you'd clearly be stealing. This is basically the same thing.

As far as FR posting articles, sure it's done, but we don't post articles from places that really object. Most of the other sites that we post from probably don't mind (if they did, they'd tell us, and we could only post excerpts from then on). The sites probably don't care because it drives some traffic to their site, and with sites, traffic is what matters. I'm sure that posting articles from small town newspapers increases traffic to those sites as some people click through, whereas if there was no post here, no one would click through. If we posted articles from a site that charged for access, I'm sure most people would agree that would not be a good thing.

As far as increasing exposure to the music, that's the record company's decision, not yours. You aren't in charge of marketing Avril Lavigne's music, and EMI, or whomever she signed a contract with, has that responsibility. They may decide to release some of her music as "freeware". And then you can copy it. But if they don't, you can't. That's way beyond any fair use. It's sort of convenient that by copying all this music for free, you're really benefiting the record companies, isn't it?

77 posted on 04/29/2003 2:40:06 PM PDT by Koblenz (There's usually a free market solution)
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