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Music Industry Sends Warning to Song Swappers
Reuters ^ | April 29, 2003 | Sue Zeidler

Posted on 04/29/2003 1:09:02 PM PDT by Mister Magoo

Wednesday April 30, 3:06 AM Music Industry Sends Warning to Song Swappers By Sue Zeidler

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The record industry opened a new front in its war against online piracy on Tuesday by surprising hundreds of thousands of Internet song swappers with an instant message warning that they could be "easily" identified and face "legal penalties."

About 200,000 users of the Grokster and Kazaa file-sharing services received the warning notice on Tuesday and at least one million will be getting the message within a week, according to music industry officials.

The copyright infringement warnings, which were sent by the Recording Industry Association of America, on behalf of the major record labels, said in part:

"It appears that you are offering copyrighted music to others from your computer. ...When you break the law, you risk legal penalties. There is a simple way to avoid that risk: DON'T STEAL MUSIC, either by offering it to others to copy or downloading it on a 'file-sharing' system like this. When you offer music on these systems, you are not anonymous and you can easily be identified."

The music industry's campaign for the hearts and minds of Internet song swappers comes four days after a federal judge threw an unexpected roadblock to its efforts to shut down song-swapping services in court.

U.S. District Court Judge Stephen Wilson on Friday ruled that the Grokster and Morpheus services should not be shut down because they cannot control what is traded over their systems. Like a videocassette recorder, the software in question could be used for legitimate purposes as well as illicit ones, he said.

"We're expecting to send at least a million messages or more per week because these users are offering to distribute music on Kazaa or Grokster," said Cary Sherman, president of the RIAA.

Sherman described the move as an educational effort to inform users that offering copyrighted music on peer-to-peer networks is illegal and that they face consequences when they participate in this illegal activity.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mp3; music; swapping
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To: rottweiller_inc
is haveing artists promoted over public owned airwaves free? if it is to have their music played why is not my right to hear the music for free?

1. No, broadcasters pay royalties.
2. Because you don't pay royalities.

81 posted on 04/29/2003 2:43:06 PM PDT by Drumbo ("Of course I have an attitude, I spent my life beating things for a living" - Drumbo Thunder)
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To: Poohbah
the point is that things change and the recording industry uses false logic and alot of money to try to protect what they see as their turf. It's not their turf because they think it's fair and right, there's hundreds, if not thousand, of artists who can testify to the recording industrys' idea of fairness. The sun has set on the industry but they still have lots to sway people like you that their way was best.
82 posted on 04/29/2003 2:43:45 PM PDT by rottweiller_inc
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To: Poohbah
Imagine, one day, finding that all of those MP3s on your hard drive that you're illegally sharing out have been replaced by kiddie porn and email encrypted with your private key...

Making RIAA a distributer of kiddie porn...

83 posted on 04/29/2003 2:44:02 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Poohbah
That's a red herring, I use lots of CD's for backup and would never burn a song onto a CD in playable form (wastes space). I shouldn't have to pay a tax to fatcat record companies, mainly because it's those companies that would benefit, not artists.
84 posted on 04/29/2003 2:44:03 PM PDT by palmer (ohmygod this bulldozer is like, really heavy?)
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To: Petronski
Making RIAA a distributer of kiddie porn...

Prove that they did it...

85 posted on 04/29/2003 2:44:36 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: palmer
Thank you for making my point.
86 posted on 04/29/2003 2:45:03 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Drumbo
You're using logic and common sense...
87 posted on 04/29/2003 2:45:40 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: KevinB
Uh, read my statement. I said a specific statute tailored to file-swapping, not the generic Lanham Act.
88 posted on 04/29/2003 2:46:38 PM PDT by Mister Magoo
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To: Jhoffa_
And when someone hacks that too, I'll make sure not to respond in kind. ;P
89 posted on 04/29/2003 2:48:17 PM PDT by The Grammarian
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To: Poohbah
The LA Slimes and the Washington ComPost demand that we only post excerpts. We do that. Others do not require that.

Yeah, and there 1000+ post threads whining about that too, even from the "file swapping is thiever" members.

As for the RIAA sending Trojan horses through Kazaa, et al., it would be nice if you didn't sound like you smugly hope they do so. There are better ways to handle file swapping. Apple's newest program, .99 for a song or 9.99 for a CD's worth (your choice of music) is a good start.

90 posted on 04/29/2003 2:51:11 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (For all your tagline needs. Don't delay! Orders shipped overnight.)
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To: Poohbah
While your arguments are on point, you still haven't proposed a viable solution. The RIAA cannot stop file-swapping. They have tried for 5 years, and it has grown exponentially. There is nothing the RIAA can do about it. They must apply their efforts to realizing income from alternative sources or their clients will suffer.
91 posted on 04/29/2003 2:51:24 PM PDT by Mister Magoo
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To: Mister Magoo
"By swapping files they might otherwise have purchased,"

What about the swaping of files you would NOT have otherwise purchased? How do you demonstrate in a court of law what they otherwise would have done? What if they own an old record or cassete tape from the 80's of that music?

If the RIAA had a brain, they would put every song more than 2 years old online in a quality format and charge a small monthly fee for download access. They would be rolling in cash, and the artists too.
92 posted on 04/29/2003 2:51:56 PM PDT by Grig
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To: The Grammarian
LOL! You do that..

Eventually, one of us will be proven right. (provided we aren't both banned before it happens.. In that event, we can flame each other via email when our side scores a point.)

93 posted on 04/29/2003 2:53:01 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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To: Dominic Harr
What about when I read the paper someone leaves in the mensroom stall? What about when I watch a rented movie TWICE? What about when I record a song off the radio? What about when my neighbor loans me the movie he rented yesterday so I can watch it tonight?

What about when I buy a movie on DVD and let friends borrow it?

My brain hurts.

If you want to sell something, even intellectual property, it seems you need to offer something tangible with your intellectual property if you want to earn a living off it. With music, that would be a LIVE PERFORMANCE, just like in the old days.
94 posted on 04/29/2003 2:53:41 PM PDT by Not Insane
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To: Mister Magoo
While your arguments are on point, you still haven't proposed a viable solution.

If you don't like the RIAA's position, then don't buy their products--but don't steal them, either.

The RIAA cannot stop file-swapping. They have tried for 5 years, and it has grown exponentially. There is nothing the RIAA can do about it.

Yup. It's why this country's going to eventually crash--freedom requires self-restraint, something that we've spent 50 years or so not bothering to teach.

They must apply their efforts to realizing income from alternative sources or their clients will suffer.

OK, then you're basically saying that a portion of the purchase price of all storage media goes to the RIAA.

When the price goes to "free," there is no way to compete.

95 posted on 04/29/2003 2:55:04 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Mister Magoo
He has proposed a solution: a new tax to benefit politically connected record companies. I will have to pay it since I use recordable CD's but have never downloaded a single illegal song (I subscibe to emusic.com).
96 posted on 04/29/2003 2:55:31 PM PDT by palmer (ohmygod this bulldozer is like, really heavy?)
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To: Bella_Bru
newest program, .99 for a song or 9.99 for a CD's worth (your choice of music) is a good start.

Compare the Apple program's costs with the Kazaa cost--0.00 for a song or 0.00 for a CD's worth.

97 posted on 04/29/2003 2:56:27 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: palmer
Actually, I'm modeling it on existing arrangements between the RIAA and manufacturers of blank audio cassettes. If you've ever used a blank cassette, the RIAA got a taste of the action.
98 posted on 04/29/2003 2:58:57 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
But it's a start. Whining about file swappers and threatening to send kiddie porn instead of Metallica's "Master of Puppetts" is just childish and solves nada.
99 posted on 04/29/2003 2:59:28 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (For all your tagline needs. Don't delay! Orders shipped overnight.)
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To: Poohbah
Oh, brother. Every generation, once they reach the age of 50, thinks the younger generation has no values. Please. The country's not going to crash, or hell in a handbasket, or any of the other silly cliches that octogenerians like to proffer.

The digital transfer of music is here to stay.
100 posted on 04/29/2003 3:00:09 PM PDT by Mister Magoo
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