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Music Industry Sends Warning to Song Swappers
Reuters ^ | April 29, 2003 | Sue Zeidler

Posted on 04/29/2003 1:09:02 PM PDT by Mister Magoo

Wednesday April 30, 3:06 AM Music Industry Sends Warning to Song Swappers By Sue Zeidler

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The record industry opened a new front in its war against online piracy on Tuesday by surprising hundreds of thousands of Internet song swappers with an instant message warning that they could be "easily" identified and face "legal penalties."

About 200,000 users of the Grokster and Kazaa file-sharing services received the warning notice on Tuesday and at least one million will be getting the message within a week, according to music industry officials.

The copyright infringement warnings, which were sent by the Recording Industry Association of America, on behalf of the major record labels, said in part:

"It appears that you are offering copyrighted music to others from your computer. ...When you break the law, you risk legal penalties. There is a simple way to avoid that risk: DON'T STEAL MUSIC, either by offering it to others to copy or downloading it on a 'file-sharing' system like this. When you offer music on these systems, you are not anonymous and you can easily be identified."

The music industry's campaign for the hearts and minds of Internet song swappers comes four days after a federal judge threw an unexpected roadblock to its efforts to shut down song-swapping services in court.

U.S. District Court Judge Stephen Wilson on Friday ruled that the Grokster and Morpheus services should not be shut down because they cannot control what is traded over their systems. Like a videocassette recorder, the software in question could be used for legitimate purposes as well as illicit ones, he said.

"We're expecting to send at least a million messages or more per week because these users are offering to distribute music on Kazaa or Grokster," said Cary Sherman, president of the RIAA.

Sherman described the move as an educational effort to inform users that offering copyrighted music on peer-to-peer networks is illegal and that they face consequences when they participate in this illegal activity.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mp3; music; swapping
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To: Poohbah
One may not like it--but one should respect it, or get used to being considered a thief. <P As a practical matter, the tendency of consumers to use file-trading networks is a function of price. Using these netwoeks involves going to a certain amont of trouble (ripping files from your own CD's to share, setting up software) and assuming some risk (of spyware). If labels cut out about thirteen layers of perk-slurping middlemen and priced CD's at a more realistic $5, file trading would vanish overnight.
61 posted on 04/29/2003 2:24:19 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Poohbah
Absolutely..

There is too much money at stake here for the freeloaders to win out..

This is going to brought under control in time.

I remember FReeper Vannarox had some interesting ideas on the subject and said it was entirely possible with existing technology.

62 posted on 04/29/2003 2:24:45 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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To: rottweiller_inc
There's been a solution to that issue for decades--and some of the smash-the-RIAA purists here on FR absolutely hate it, because it involved paying a small tax on CD-R/CD-RW media.
63 posted on 04/29/2003 2:25:48 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
Let's take this a step further so we're in line with hollywood and recording artists. My first amendment rights are violated if speech, including songs, were not free.
64 posted on 04/29/2003 2:28:10 PM PDT by rottweiller_inc
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To: BlazingArizona
Of course...one could simply opt to NOT PURCHASE the music at all, AND not bother doing the file-swapping...but that requires people to behave as mature, responsible adults, which has been steadily deprecated over the decades.

If we are to die as a nation of freemen, we must be the authors of our own destruction.

65 posted on 04/29/2003 2:28:46 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
That's no longer viable. Many people simply download the MP3s and either play them on their computer or stereo. Or transfer them to an IPod. Car stereo are now available as 40 gigabyte hard drives. Soon, you will be able to simply plug in your Ipod into a car stereo and be ready to go.
66 posted on 04/29/2003 2:28:55 PM PDT by Mister Magoo
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To: Poohbah
this is especially true since the only way artists are heard of at all is over public owned airwaves..all advertising even is own by the public according to the FCC. Why should artisits profit over a public owned medium?
67 posted on 04/29/2003 2:30:43 PM PDT by rottweiller_inc
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To: rottweiller_inc
Hey, feel free to not purchase the latest Dixie Twits album if their stupidity is that offensive to you.

But don't pretend that you have some sort of right to get their stuff for free.

There's an amazing fact out there: music recordings are not a necessity of life. You can live just fine without buying them; you can live just fine without having to get them on Kazaa.
68 posted on 04/29/2003 2:31:10 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
is haveing artists promoted over public owned airwaves free? if it is to have their music played why is not my right to hear the music for free?
69 posted on 04/29/2003 2:34:16 PM PDT by rottweiller_inc
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To: Poohbah; Mister Magoo; SamAdams76
SamAdams posted
Personally, I think the music industry benefits by the trading of MP3s as more people are exposed to the music, many of which will eventually purchase the CD . . .

Mister Magoo posted
A recent Business Week article stated that over 60% of teenagers under the age of 18 get all or most of their music from file swapping. I have friends that haven't bought CDs in over 5 years.

You just can't argue with logic like this when people on the same side argue both sides of the street. So I won't.

70 posted on 04/29/2003 2:35:57 PM PDT by Drumbo ("Of course I have an attitude, I spent my life beating things for a living" - Drumbo Thunder)
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To: Poohbah
you seem to be saying the public should provide the airwaves to promote music for free but the public must pay for another medium to hear it?
71 posted on 04/29/2003 2:36:22 PM PDT by rottweiller_inc
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To: rottweiller_inc
is haveing artists promoted over public owned airwaves free?

No. Do you think that radio stations don't cost a pretty penny to own, operate, and maintain their licenses?

72 posted on 04/29/2003 2:37:17 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
If the US ever scrapped it's tax system for a national sales tax there would be plenty of tax accountants screaming it was'nt fair to them.
73 posted on 04/29/2003 2:38:37 PM PDT by rottweiller_inc
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To: rottweiller_inc
you seem to be saying the public should provide the airwaves to promote music for free but the public must pay for another medium to hear it?

The airwaves are NOT provided "for free."

Your knowledge of FCC licensing requirements is, to put it charitably, sorely lacking.

74 posted on 04/29/2003 2:38:47 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: rottweiller_inc
Your arguments are getting increasingly inane and off-point.
75 posted on 04/29/2003 2:39:12 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
Of course...one could simply opt to NOT PURCHASE the music at all, AND not bother doing the file-swapping...but that requires people to behave as mature, responsible adults, which has been steadily deprecated over the decades.

The industry's business model will have to change, but in the meantime you're exactly right. File sharing is clearly immoral.

76 posted on 04/29/2003 2:39:44 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: SamAdams76
BTW, I fully support Free Republic's right to have the articles posted here. I'm just making the argument that it's technically the same thing as file-swapping MP3s.

Personally, I think the music industry benefits by the trading of MP3s as more people are exposed to the music, many of which will eventually purchase the CD and/or attend the concerts of the recording act in question. I also think newspapers and magazines gain a wider readership by exposure on sites like Free Republic. (Though it would help if we all got in the habit of clicking the source link so that the web traffic of the sites providing the articles are duly compensated.)

There are a number of issues here. While we conservatives may not agree with the RIAA's members on many (most/all) political stances, what's at stake here is simply protection of private property. In short, the musician or artist who creates the song lets the record company distribute it for him or her. And don't give me this nonsense about how it's unfair: the record companies take all the risk. They have the right to control distribution of intellectual property, just as book publishers have the right to control distribution of their books. If you went and photocopied a book, you'd clearly be stealing. This is basically the same thing.

As far as FR posting articles, sure it's done, but we don't post articles from places that really object. Most of the other sites that we post from probably don't mind (if they did, they'd tell us, and we could only post excerpts from then on). The sites probably don't care because it drives some traffic to their site, and with sites, traffic is what matters. I'm sure that posting articles from small town newspapers increases traffic to those sites as some people click through, whereas if there was no post here, no one would click through. If we posted articles from a site that charged for access, I'm sure most people would agree that would not be a good thing.

As far as increasing exposure to the music, that's the record company's decision, not yours. You aren't in charge of marketing Avril Lavigne's music, and EMI, or whomever she signed a contract with, has that responsibility. They may decide to release some of her music as "freeware". And then you can copy it. But if they don't, you can't. That's way beyond any fair use. It's sort of convenient that by copying all this music for free, you're really benefiting the record companies, isn't it?

77 posted on 04/29/2003 2:40:06 PM PDT by Koblenz (There's usually a free market solution)
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To: Poohbah
"Kazaa and its ilk are for 100% Grade-A idiots. Read the Kazaa license carefully. You basically give Kazaa complete control over your computer"

Amd Kazaa lite?
78 posted on 04/29/2003 2:40:29 PM PDT by Not Insane
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To: Mister Magoo
Even if a specific statute was enacted criminalizing file-swapping, it would be unenforceable

Huh? One already exists. It's called the United States Copyright Act.

79 posted on 04/29/2003 2:41:20 PM PDT by KevinB
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To: NittanyLion
Part of the reason we have so many "anti-freedom" laws is that we've wandered further and further from basic ideas of accountability.
80 posted on 04/29/2003 2:41:41 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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