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To: ArGee
Santorum said that if consensual sex is acceptable because it is a privacy issue, then bigamy, polygamy, adultery, and incest are also acceptable when consensual and performed in private. The implication was that this was a reason to keep hay sex illegal because all 5 sex acts are immoral.

If you live with seven women and call them all your wives, is that illegal if you never seek to marry any or more than one of the women? It isn't what is done in the privacy of their home but what they might seek in the eyes of the law that make bigamy and polygamy illegal. At what point is adultery an actionable offense in this country? Isn't it when the wronged spouse, in an open court, seeks legal remedy? Privacy isn't a defense if ones reasonable expectation of fidelity has been violated. What are the laws in this country regarding incest if not to protect endangered children, or would be children from the biogenetic results of the marriage of family members? Again, I don't see where privacy laws would afford any protection to an adult endangering a child or two cousins seeking a marriage license.

So I ask you, who is the victim of two adults engaging in homosexual conduct? If that victim is the fabric of our culture, morality, or some such other ambiguous notion, then why should pornography, teenage pregnancy, sexually charged advertising, etc. not be targeted? If the victim is the taxpayer or insurance purchaser who has increased costs (as suggested here) then why not target the overweight, the sedentary, smokers, etc. whose lifestyles lead to more illness?

167 posted on 04/29/2003 3:13:56 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Dolphy
So I ask you, who is the victim of two adults engaging in homosexual conduct?

I will answer they are the only victims. And for their own protection it is not unreasonable to make it illegal. They may not realize they suffer from a mental illness nor seek treatment, but they do and they should.

Who are the victims if a man abuses his wife and she does not seek protection or redress - if she goes to the doctor for treatment but refuses to tell the doctor her husband is abusing her. Was a crime committed?

I would say yes.

Is it protected by the right to privacy?

I would say no.

Was anyone hurt other than one of the consenting adults?

I would say no.

Do you think wife abuse should be illegal in this case?

Shalom.

287 posted on 04/30/2003 10:02:02 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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