The Dini-gration of Darwinism

AgapePress ^ | April 29, 2003 | Mike S. Adams

[ALS]

you believe in space aliens populating earth and you call me paranoid?

HA!

[Heartlander]

Okay, I'll call your troll: Feel free to argue that biological evolution *does* "have something to do with cosmology".

Explain how RM&NS are related if the Anthropic Principle is -(or)- is not invoked?

[ALS]

"most people aren't so careless with their own dignity like that."

yet, here you are

[Ichneumon]

Man, is this easy, or what? It's like having a flamethrower fight with a moth.

[general_re]

yet, here you are

Yes, I am ever hopeful that I can lead the willfully blind into opening their eyes. So far, no dice, but I am ever hopeful, as I said - you can thank me later...

[ALS]

contents of general_re's homepage:

Remove MYPANTS to email me...

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oh yeah, now there's some dignity!

no wonder ichbeinidiot and hairless2000 follow you around

[ALS]

"Willfully blind"

would that be, oh say, christians?

[Ichneumon]

Explain how RM&NS are related if the Anthropic Principle is -(or)- is not invoked?

The anthropic principle is a self-fulfilling prophecy -- if the universe weren't configured to allow life, we wouldn't be here to note that it wasn't, if the universe is configured to allow life, then any life that resulted would slap itself on the forehead and go, "wow, what a 'coincidence'".

It's like a lottery winner asking, "what did I do to deserve to win?", while failing to grasp the significance of the millions of people who lost who are saying, "why not *me*?"

So what does that allegedly have to do with the proces of biological evolution, the price of tea in China, or why "Space Camp" sucked so much?

Now answer my question without dodging it with a question of your own.

[general_re]

The funny part is that she undoubtedly thinks she's scoring points here, and will go to bed tonight secure in the belief that she's held the line once more against those nasty evolutionist materialists. May God continue to bless us with opponents of this caliber, is all I can say...

[ALS]

and your gay?

[general_re]

oh yeah, now there's some dignity!

Sometimes ya gotta get down in the muck to reach the people that need the most help - you can thank me later...

would that be, oh say, christians?

No, I wouldn't say that. Apparently you would, though, given how readily it sprang to mind.

[ALS]

yeah, that's it.

you're anti-christian

[general_re]

Your sentence no verb. Try again.

[ALS]

and a hall monitor

[general_re]

you're anti-christian

Stop projecting, darlin' - it's unbecoming. I already said that I wouldn't call Christians willfully blind - I'm just curious as to why "Christians" popped right into your little head when I said "willfully blind". Feeling a bit defensive, eh?

[general_re]

Hey, if you're going to post some sort of gay innuendo, at least try to make it readable for the people who aren't watching your lips move while you type...

[ALS]

You keep calling me darlin'.

Most people would call that gay

[Aric2000]

He sure did, Good job Balrog!!

[general_re]

"Are you trying to seduce me, Mrs. Robinson?"

[Heartlander]

Darwin purposed that RM&NS is all that is required for the diversity of life we now see and logically comprehend - i.e. (now with neo-darwinism) there is no target for evolution and we are just lucky to realize our own luck.

This must extend into cosmology or there is a plan, purpose, and Target:

Evolution has no ‘Target’… Life is a big ‘super-store’ - Kinda' like:

Just like your local Wal-Mart store, evolution passes even more materialistic nonsense on to you by lowering our Every Day Low Quality of Life whenever we can. Check out the great lack of values in regards to life for your home! Each time you see the Rollback smiley face, you'll smile, too.

“Whether there is a target or not, the nature and mechanism of interspecies evolution demands that a millenia of transitional forms be processed through in order to get from a one cell organism to the variety of creatures we have today.”

And how can one argue with the predictions of this beautiful theory?

1. Had the rate of expansion of the big bang been different, no life would have been possible. A reduction by one part in a million million would have led to collapse before the temperatures could fall below ten thousand degrees. An early increase by one part in a million would have prevented the growth of galaxies, stars, and planets.

2. The material of the observable universe is isotropic (evenly distributed) to an accuracy of 0. 1 percent. Such an accuracy is antecedently improbable and slight variations would rule out life.

3. Had the values of the gravitational constant, the strong force constant (the force binding protons and neutrons in the nucleus), the weak force (the force responsible for many nuclear processes [e.g., the transmutation of neutrons into protons]), and the electromagnetic force been slightly greater or smaller, no life would have been possible.

4. In the formation of the universe, the balance of matter to antimatter had to be accurate to one part in ten billion for the universe to arise.

5. The random coalescing of several unrelated factors necessary for life someplace in the universe is highly improbable. This can be seen by examining the factors on earth necessary for life. The point is not, however, that it is amazing that these factors came together on earth instead of somewhere else. Rather, it is amazing that they came together anywhere, and earth is used to illustrate the factors necessary. Had the ratio of carbon to oxygen been slightly different, no life could have formed. If the mass of a proton were increased by 0.2 percent, hydrogen would be unstable and life would not have formed. For life to form, the temperature range is only 1-2 percent of the total temperature range, and earth obtains this range by being the correct distance from the sun, just the right size, with the right rotational speed, with a special atmosphere which protects earth and evens out temperature extremes. In addition, the planet which had these factors just happened to contain the proper amount of metals (especially iron), radioactive elements to provide the right heat source, and water-forming compounds. Perhaps the proper temperature range could be obtained in another way. But earth shows how delicate and multifaceted are the independent factors involved in maintaining the correct temperature for life. 3

6. The chance formation of life from nonlife (abiogenesis) has been estimated at around 1 x 1040,000 Thus, the probability of life forming anywhere in the cosmos is miniscule. 4 Furthermore, in the process of reacting in some prebiotic chemical soup, the reactants often need to be isolated from their environment at just the right time and reintroduced at just the right time for the reaction to continue. This is achieved in the lab by investigator interference, but it is difficult to conceive of a mechanism to do this in nature and to do it at just the right time.

1. Davies, God and the New Physics, P. 189. 2. See Davies, God and the New Physics, pp. 177-89; The Accidental Universe (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1982); John Wiester, The Genesis Connection (Nashville: Nelson, 1983), pp. 27-36, 47-50; hn Leslie, "Anthropic Principle, World Ensemble, Design," American Philosophical Quarterly 19 (Aprfl ):141-50. 3. Wiester, The Genesis Connection, pp. 42-43, 47-50. 4. For examples of these estimates, see Thaxton, Bradley, and Olsen, The Mystery of Life's Origin, pp. 113-66, 218-19; Pierre Lecomte du Noiiy, Human Destiny (New York: The New American Library of World Literature, 1949), pp. 30-39; Robert Shapiro, Origins (New York: Summit, 1986), pp. 117-31; Henry M. Morris, ed., Scientific Creationism (El Cajon, Calif.: Master, 1974), pp. 59 69

But what are the predictions:

FIG O: Origin of the Phyla: Darwinian predictions

FIG Q: The origin of the phyla: the fossil evidence

The sudden appearance of between 50 and 100 disparate body plans with extremely low species diversity supports the conclusion that neither gradual Darwinian evolution nor lower taxon-level punctuations can account for the origin of the higher taxa and the major body plans.

FIG P: Origin of the Phyla: Darwinian predictions

FIG R: The origin of the phyla: the fossil evidence

The sudden appearance of between 50 and 100 disparate body plans with extremely low species diversity supports the conclusion that neither gradual Darwinian evolution nor lower taxon-level punctuations can account for the origin of the higher taxa and the major body plans.