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YOu can't use vile methods when it chooses your fancy just because you think you have the 'high ground' in an issue. It helps in the destruction of everything this country was built on and feeds the monster that will consume us all if we aren't careful.

What vile methods have been proposed in friendly's post?

The only thing vile I see in it is the FACT that he posited:

No devout Roman Catholic Hispanic will EVER be allowed by the democrats to run for national office or be appointed to a judgeship.

That is a RAT tactic, not Bush or Republican. Anything being advocated here is the TRUTH. A very effective tool to use with a well informed public.

You are just being a little disingenuous aren't you? Mr. Estrada was nominated and is being touted as the first Hispanic - not just as a man who will do a good job. There is no way you can deny it. Then when the Democrats played their usual games based on their political philosophy - the Republicans decided to use this, yes vile, racial politics to drum up public opinion. If something is bad for the Democrats - it is equally, if not worse, bad for the Republicans.

Now yes it is vile that, if the Democrats have not passed anyone based on anything but their character and ability to do the job. Bush is just as bad for nominating for that reason. But the statement, that they haven't "and Bush has some suprises in store" means he is going to nominate some based on things other than their character and ability to do the job.

You know you can't have it both ways - this should not be a anything to win situation. The Republican party needs to maintain some degree of integrity. How can anyone remark about the Democratic racial proclivities when we just had the Trent Lott debacle - supported by the President for his own agenda. The nomination and touting of 'the first Hispanic' for his own agenda and not see it as something horribly wrong.

We do not have the moral high ground here. Now if that doesn't matter - have the courage to say it doesn't. Don't pretend the Democrats are dastardly for doing the same thing we are doing.

Do not - just don't waste the space to try to say that Mr. Estrada was not nominated because he was Hispanic. That doesn't mean he is not qualified for the job - but he was nominated and touted because he was Hispanic - just plain wrong and you can't spin it fast enough to blur the truth.