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Sex and the Single Senior (horrified gag alert)
The New York Times ^ | 4/2/2003 | ALEX WITCHEL

Posted on 04/28/2003 8:45:44 PM PDT by Utah Girl

People smile at Jane Juska. There she is, on a rainy afternoon at the Gramercy Tavern in her cheerful red jacket, white hair tucked behind her ears, blue eyes bright behind her bifocals. "I'm agog at the forsythia," she exclaimed, marveling at the enormous arrangements. At 70, she seems to be what she is, a proud new grandma enjoying a day on the town. Though she clutched her lower back periodically — arthritis? — she ordered some wine and chatted happily about her writing. Here's a sample:

"Before I turn 67 — next March — I would like to have a lot of sex with a man I like. If you want to talk first, Trollope works for me."

And how. Ms. Juska placed this personal ad in The New York Review of Books in the fall of 1999. Over the course of a month, she received 63 responses and spent the better part of a year following them up, an experience she recounts in her first book, "A Round-Heeled Woman: My Late-Life Adventures in Sex and Romance" (Villard). It turns out that Ms. Juska did indeed have a lot of sex with a lot of men she liked, and still does, having seen one of them as recently as that morning. He's 35. Which might explain the lower-back problem.

"I didn't want to think, `What if I never had sex with a man again?' " Ms. Juska recalled of her decision to place the ad. "I didn't want to just sit there and think, `Wouldn't it be nice, if?' "

Ms. Juska, a retired high school English teacher (round-heeled is an antiquated slang expression for a promiscuous woman), was moved to action after seeing Eric Rohmer's film "Autumn Tale." Its plot involves a woman placing a personal ad in a newspaper on her middle-age friend's behalf.

"Before I got home I had written my ad in my head," Ms. Juska said. "But I did think, as if I were teaching a class and would ask my students, `What harm might this decision cause other people?' The only person that would be is my son. So I asked him, and he said: `Go get 'em, Mom. It's your turn.' The night I sent the ad in I felt so great."

Feeling great has become a new hobby for Ms. Juska in the 10 years since her retirement. She now lives in Berkeley and has lived in the Bay Area since the mid-1950's. After her divorce in 1972, she raised her son, Andy, now 38, as a single mother with no help from his father, she said. "My ex-husband wanted me to just collapse intellectually," she recalled. "Whether the topic was the weather, politics or rent increases, he was always argumentative."

She went through a bleak period during which she gained 70 pounds, drank heavily and lived in constant turmoil when her son dropped out of school and ran away from home. It took years of psychoanalysis, dieting and exercise to take control of herself again, shaking off the lingering effects of a Puritanical small-town Ohio childhood in the process.

For 27 years, she dated only sporadically. "Except for a couple of unhappy skirmishes, my relationship with men was nonexistent," she said. "I had enough trouble making a living, bringing up a son. Romantic trouble? That was too much."

Her work, she said, was her salvation. "Teaching was a passion for me," Ms. Juska said. "And when I left it, I just wasn't tired enough." She smiled. "My grandmother used to say, `Don't borrow trouble,' but I think borrowing trouble is a good idea. If you live your life staying safe you're going to lose."

She ate her lunch with great appetite — beet salad, lamb shank, sorbet — and finished every bite. She needed to keep up her strength; after lunch she was headed to New England to meet another gentleman friend she met through the ad.

Well, let's get down to basics. Some postmenopausal women feel a lessening of sexual desire, or at least are said to. That was apparently not her experience. "No," she said firmly. "I was probably even more interested because I wasn't as afraid as when I was younger, of not doing it right or, well, being thought randy."

But even women who are 20 years her junior might not feel keen to take off their clothes in front of men they don't know. And Ms. Juska describes her own imperfect body in exacting detail in her book. Was she not at all self-conscious?

She smiled, sort of. "Men didn't mind," she said. "It was always me pulling up the sheet and turning out the light. I never met a man who was afraid to take his clothes off. That's healthy, I think. They've forgiven themselves for sagging here and there." She took a deep breath. "The other day, my publisher sent me for media coaching, where they tape you so you learn how to speak on television," she said. "I don't feel 70, but I look it. Television does not lie. I went home after that and cried."

She cried over a few of the men, too, one in particular, with whom she fell in love. "In the end, he was just lonely and wanted a friend," she said. "So he strung me along, and I let him, I guess." Some of the others weren't too swell, either; one stole her underwear. And her Champagne flutes. But she seems remarkably sanguine about the entire endeavor. There is so much of the teacher about her, you can practically see her internal filing system for categorizing learning experiences.

Her humor, however, helps lighten the load. When asked whether she practiced safe sex, she said: "Well, not getting pregnant was part of my popularity," though she added: "Yes, we took the precautions we thought we needed to. After all, these men didn't know where I had been, either."

Although Ms. Juska has never published a book before, she has published articles on teaching, and for 20 years has been part of a writing group that meets monthly to read each other's work. It was when she was making piles of "yes," "no" and "maybe" with the responses to her ad that the idea of writing about it came to her. "I thought: `Jane, you don't want to forget this. It's too good to keep to yourself.' " she said. "I thought I'd write it as a novel because nobody would believe it. I took some vignettes to my group, and after I read them they were silent. I was terribly uncomfortable. Finally, there was a comment: `You changed point of view on Page 3.' They were just fumbling for things to say."

One of the men Ms. Juska met through the ad asked to see her pages. (In the book, all the men's names, occupations and home cities were changed to protect their identities, which Ms. Juska still refuses to divulge). She recalled: "After he read what I had written, he said, `There are two things you must do. Get out of that writing group and write it as nonfiction.' He gave me permission just to go."

Without any connections in publishing, Ms. Juska sent out the manuscript on her own. At the William Morris Agency, Elyse Green, a 26-year-old assistant, fell in love with it. "I didn't know agents had slush piles but they do," Ms. Juska said. Ms. Green passed the book to Virginia Barber, who became Ms. Juska's agent.

Ms. Juska sent her son the chapter she had written about his troubled youth and told him he could change his name if he wanted anonymity. He is now a forester, and though he eventually returned to school he has never shared his mother's love of words. "He said, `I would be proud if you used my real name,' " Ms. Juska said. But wasn't she worried about his reaction to the rest of the book? She laughed. "He said, `Oh, this is just another book I'm not going to read,' so I'm safe."

She finished her second glass of sauvignon blanc. "The best part of all this is that I have a writing life now," she said. She is working on a second book, about teaching. "The other huge surprise," she said, "was finding intellectual partners, which is almost as exciting as the sex, in some cases more. To be able to talk to a really smart man, who says, `I would value your opinion on this.' Where I grew up you had to bow and scrape to the nearest man and keep your mouth shut."

But it has been women, not men, whose responses to Ms. Juska's adventure have been the most harsh. "I did a reading in Berkeley for mostly women," Ms. Juska said. "I said that the age range of the men in the book went from 84 to 32. And one woman said about the 32-year-old, `He must have been short and ugly.' I said, `Actually, he's tall and handsome.' Another said, `Then what would he want with you?' She shrugged. "When women in particular hear about what I've done, the question which unbidden comes to them is, `What have I done with my life?' " she continued. "And lots of people at my age don't want to go back and look at it. That's why they're so nuts about their grandchildren. It keeps the focus off them."

Ms. Juska said she knows other women her age or older who have tried their luck online, at match.com. "One woman I know is just infuriated because she met this very nice man online who turned out to be 84 and he hadn't told her. I said she was ageist and she said she was only mad that he lied. And I said, `Come on now.' But most of the women insist on asking me, `Didn't you really do this because you wanted to get married?' Ms. Juska shook her head. "The institution of marriage does not interest me," she said firmly. "I did get a marriage proposal, but I said no. I'd have to give up the others, then. I'd have to give up too much."

Still, due to the luck of the draw, most of the men who interested Ms. Juska did not live in Berkeley or anywhere nearby. When she first placed the ad, she was so busy — teaching writing to prisoners at San Quentin, teaching an education seminar at a local college, volunteering at Planned Parenthood, hiking, singing in a chorale — it seemed incredible she had time or energy for anything else. But, as she writes, by 7 each evening she was home alone. "Yes, I was busy, but there's nobody touching you," she said. "People don't pay attention to that part."

And that lack of local company persists. For all her enterprise, on most days she still lives a solitary life. So does she feel cheated by her search, in the end? She hooted her no.

"I had no hope of it turning out to be anything like this," she said. "I expected to be murdered, or made sad at the very least. But I never expected to have intimate friendships with extraordinary men. True, I've met some men who are not kind or thoughtful, but I've also met men who are kind and thoughtful and funny and true." Her smile was wry. "Which is to say, I guess I found out that men are people."

She leaned over then to pick up her napkin and said something that was muffled. What was that? She sat up straight and spoke quite clearly. "They're just the kind of people I like better naked," she said.


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Words fail me. I will copy what Rod Dreher had to say about the New York Times, and their outlook on life.

THAT'S WHY GRANDMA IS A TRAMP [Rod Dreher]

Here is a jaw-dropping story that perfectly captures the New York Times view of the world. It's an appreciation of an educated and accomplished 70-year-old woman who, three years ago, decided she was missing out on life, and decided to sleep with as many men as she could in the time she had left. After living unhappily for years, Jane Juska, the Septuagenarian Sexpot, decided to remake herself. "It took years of psychoanalysis, dieting and exercise to take control of herself again, shaking off the lingering effects of a Puritanical small-town Ohio childhood in the process."

Having come back to the Times version of reality, Jane became -- what's the word? -- a slut. She's decided that so many women focus on their grandchildren to take their minds off the fact that they haven't done anything (in her view) with their lives. And a tramp's life has been a pleasant surprise to Jane: "I had no hope of it turning out to be anything like this," she said. "I expected to be murdered, or made sad at the very least."

Murdered? How nice for Jane that she's decided to live like a whore, but hasn't (yet) died like one. Go get 'em, girlfriend! The Times loves ya!

1 posted on 04/28/2003 8:45:44 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
Ah the mysteries of romance! Who are we to say that love is only for the twenty somethings?
2 posted on 04/28/2003 8:48:55 PM PDT by friendly
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To: friendly
I don't begrudge seniors romance. But this lady is promiscuous. Sorry, I don't see why the NY Times is celebrating her choice to be a slut.
3 posted on 04/28/2003 8:50:09 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
Can't agree with you more. This is the end-result of the self-centeredness that is so pervasive in the Leftist mind. To hell with the New York Slimes! To hell with Berkeley!

"Puritanical small-town Ohio background" - that one phrase summed up the entire jaundiced view of this disgusting author for me. I am willing to bet that the jackass who wrote this article has NEVER been there, and has NO idea what life outside of the Neverending Sprawl that is New York City is like.

I will second your "horrified gag alert," and raise it a Pepto-Bismol or two. Sell New York back to Amsterdam. Those two have much more in common than New York has with the rest of America.

:) ttt

4 posted on 04/28/2003 8:51:59 PM PDT by detsaoT
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To: Utah Girl
"That's why they're so nuts about their grandchildren. It keeps the focus off them."

Kinda says it all....it's all about ME...ME...ME...ME...how sad.

5 posted on 04/28/2003 8:53:12 PM PDT by goodnesswins (He (or she) who pays the bills, makes the rules.)
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To: Utah Girl
Though she clutched her lower back periodically — arthritis?

Or the clap, perhaps.

6 posted on 04/28/2003 8:55:10 PM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Utah Girl
Will this work for men?????????
7 posted on 04/28/2003 8:55:57 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Served in Korea, Vietnam and still fighting America's enemies on Home Front)
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To: Utah Girl
This is nothing but recycled "If it feels good, do it!" from the '60s.

I wonder if Bill Clinton has read this yet? She sounds like his type-easy.
8 posted on 04/28/2003 8:56:17 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been banned.)
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To: Utah Girl
Yuck. As Jeff Foxworthy says, old men in nursing homes want beer and to see somebody naked.

But not old women. Old women naked? "Oh no, not that!!!"

There's something seriously deranged about a 32 year old man who would get hot over a 70 year old woman.

9 posted on 04/28/2003 8:58:36 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: friendly
>>Ah the mysteries of romance! Who are we to say that love is only for the twenty somethings?<<

What this ancient bimbo is doing isn't romantic, and it sure as heck ain't love.
10 posted on 04/28/2003 8:59:02 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This tagline has been banned.)
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To: Utah Girl
I didn't see anywhere in here where she says she's getting paid to do this....but I guess her "book" is the "fee."
11 posted on 04/28/2003 9:01:25 PM PDT by goodnesswins (He (or she) who pays the bills, makes the rules.)
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To: goodnesswins
Ewwwww, I didn't even think about that. I'm still shaking my head here.
12 posted on 04/28/2003 9:02:53 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl; *libertarians
Puritanical

Ahh, Puritanical. A Favorite word of Liberals, Libertarians, Democrats, MTV, HollyWeird, Greens, Hippies, Sodomites, and Fornicators, when discribing Normal people who object to their sexual perversions.

You know what else is amazing? Pedophiles, Rapists, Sadists, and other Sexual Perverts always like to use that same word, when they get arrested for the crimes, and start to blame the "Puritanical" Society.

Oh well, they are all one in the same anyway.

13 posted on 04/28/2003 9:04:18 PM PDT by FF578 (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just and His justice cannot sleep forever)
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To: friendly

Oh. man, this gal is hot! She is juuusssttt my style!

14 posted on 04/28/2003 9:05:03 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (one of these days I will come up with something clever to put here)
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To: Utah Girl
She now lives in Berkeley and has lived in the Bay Area since the mid-1950's.

No, really?

15 posted on 04/28/2003 9:06:30 PM PDT by HassanBenSobar (I now inform you that you are too far from reality!)
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To: Jeff Chandler; Utah Girl
I was making a little humor there. Apparently very little.
16 posted on 04/28/2003 9:07:28 PM PDT by friendly
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To: sinkspur
There's something seriously deranged about a 32 year old man who would get hot over a 70 year old woman.

"And as in the Dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of Corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal and frequently superior; every Knack being by Practice capable of improvement." - Benjamin Franklin, "Advice to a Young Man," 1745.

Maven
17 posted on 04/28/2003 9:10:42 PM PDT by Maven
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To: sinkspur
well, here's her pic...
18 posted on 04/28/2003 9:11:01 PM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: FF578
Puritans also use the word "puritanical."
19 posted on 04/28/2003 9:11:26 PM PDT by dead
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To: Jeff Chandler
"I wonder if Bill Clinton has read this yet?"
Read it? He was one of her suitors.
20 posted on 04/28/2003 9:12:49 PM PDT by Chirodoc
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