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Santorum Crisis Exposes Republican Weakness
The Pro-Family Law Center ^ | 29-Apr-2003 | Scott Lively

Posted on 04/28/2003 2:25:50 PM PDT by Remedy

The Rick Santorum controversy has illuminated a serious problem in the Republican Party: its leaders seem woefully ill-prepared to defend the pro-family position on homosexuality. As an attorney who trains pro-family activists how to debate this issue, I would like to offer my fellow Republicans the following advice.

First, don't dodge the issue in fear of political correctness or pro-"gay" media bias. Stand confidently upon the essential pro-family presuppositions that resonate with people of common sense: 1) normality is that which functions according to its design, 2) the heterosexual design of the human body and the natural family is self-evident, 3) respecting the design of life produces good results (conversely, rejecting that design produces bad results) and 4) simple observation validates these assumptions. No special education or "scientific" study is required.

Failure to articulate the logic of our position cedes the moral and intellectual battleground to the militant "gays," and leaves the impression (even among our own supporters) that we have no reasonable response, other than religious belief, to their attack on family values.

Second, contest the hidden false assumption underlying most pro-"gay" arguments that homosexuality is immutable. We have a strong case on this point since 1) proponents of the "gays are born that way" justification for normalizing homosexuality bear the burden of proof, 2) proof is absolutely necessary due to the severity of social change which is contemplated by their demands, 3) proponents cannot prove that homosexuality is immutable (Indeed, ex-homosexuals can prove that it is not.), 3) if homosexuality is not immutable, then logically it must be acquired (children being the most likely to acquire the condition because of their vulnerability to social conditioning), and 4) society must err on the side of caution, actively discouraging the normalization of homosexuality in order to protect children and others from the possibility of acquiring a homosexual condition with its attendant health risks.

Third, expose the deceptive terms, such as sexual orientation, diversity and homophobia, which are used by pro-"gay" proponents to confuse the issue and control the debate. This requires nothing but making them define their terms at the start of argument, then focusing the debate on clarifying the definitions and exposing their illogic and hypocrisy.

Consider sexual orientation, for example. Does orientation mean "state of mind" or conduct? If it includes conduct, which conduct? Does it include sodomy? Fisting? Rimming? Sadism? If not, why not? Regarding diversity, what is the standard used to decide who gets to be in the circle of inclusion? They don't have one, but you'll have fun with this -- especially if they attempt to draw the line at "hate" groups. What is their definition of hate? (and by that definition, do they "hate" us and thereby invalidate their own membership in the community of diversity?) Speaking of hate, remember that they have defined homophobia as "hate and fear of homosexuals." Ask them to identify some examples of non-homophobic opposition to homosexuality. They can't do it because they define all opposition as "homophobic." Do they really believe that disapproval of sodomy/rimming/fisting/sadism is irrational bigotry? You get the idea. You'll find that this technique derails virtually every pro-"gay" argument because each one relies on deceptive rhetoric.

Fourth and finally, get off the defensive and take the offensive on the homosexual issue by purging "gay" activism from the Republican Party. The implicit goal of the "gay" movement is the normalization of an anything-goes sexual morality -- the antithesis of the family values so dear to our Republican base. Instead of inviting into our tent the very constituency that many Republicans have spent years and fortunes opposing, why not conduct a meaningful family-values outreach to ethnic minorities? Let the Democrats continue to be the party of sexual deviance and let us exploit that identification to woo away their healthy families to the higher Republican standard.

What is needed from Republican leaders is articulate, confident and continual advocacy of the pro-family world view. Without it, we might as well say farewell to Rick Santorum and other defenders of family values, because if things continue as they are, these courageous people will have no place in the future GOP, the Gays' Other Party.


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To: tdadams
Oh, OK, so you feel a Bhuddist government is just as good as a Christian government? No qualms about that?

Never said any such thing. I like exactly what America has been for its entire history. A free republic based on the rule of law and run by Christians who understand what those things mean.

201 posted on 04/29/2003 12:03:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
You didn't answer my question at all. The evasion is duly noted.
202 posted on 04/29/2003 12:09:09 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: EternalVigilance
But of course, right or wrong cannot be decided by a poll.

whom is it decided by?

203 posted on 04/29/2003 12:09:14 PM PDT by jethropalerobber
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To: tdadams
I'm neutral, remember.

You're doing a pretty good imitation of an advocate for the homosexual agenda, then. Might be worthy of an Academy Award.

I don't care to change it.

Then what are you doing here arguing about it?

But it seems to me that it is changing, otherwise you wouldn't see the need to be on here morally crusading.

That's exactly what I have said. If those who practice this stuff weren't in the political arena demanding that I accept their practices--if they weren't in the schools I pay for evangelizing for sodomy--I wouldn't be involved in political efforts to stop them. They could all go off in their corner and die of AIDs, and that would be that.

204 posted on 04/29/2003 12:10:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Tell me how I'm confused. You're fond of making assertions without any basis.

You believe America is a theocracy? It's not. You don't believe America is a theocracy? That's what I said. Who's the confused one?

205 posted on 04/29/2003 12:11:10 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: jethropalerobber
whom is it decided by?

Sovereign citizens of the United States, actuated by their conscience, their understanding of the demands made on them by their Creator, and their knowledge of how the world has worked throughout history.

Why? Who do you think should decide?

206 posted on 04/29/2003 12:12:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
God has destroyed every nation that ever openly practiced and approved of homosexuality...

and a lot that didn't - whoops.

207 posted on 04/29/2003 12:13:02 PM PDT by jethropalerobber
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To: tdadams
I never claimed that America was a theocracy. That's your twisted line of argument.

You claim, wrongly, that if I get my way, America will somehow turn into a theocracy.

You also agree, rightly, that America hasn't been a theocracy throughout its history.

But all I am doing is defending the way it has always been in this country.

As I said, you are confused.
208 posted on 04/29/2003 12:16:31 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Sovereign citizens of the United States...

you mean by popular vote?

how is that different from a poll, which you previously said cannot decide right or wrong?

209 posted on 04/29/2003 12:20:02 PM PDT by jethropalerobber
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To: Remedy
From the inane to the insane....it's all here.
210 posted on 04/29/2003 12:20:50 PM PDT by Consort
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To: jethropalerobber
and a lot that didn't - whoops.

Yeah? Name me one that was destroyed that hadn't fallen into some kind of gross sin...idolatry, homosexuality, bestiality, total disregard for human life....

God is merciful and very slow to anger, but there is an outer limit on His patience.

211 posted on 04/29/2003 12:22:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: jethropalerobber
how is that different from a poll, which you previously said cannot decide right or wrong?

Fortunately for us, throughout our history, the vast majority of the sovereign citizens of the US knew the difference between right and wrong, unlike the couple dozen here on FR who don't, seemingly.

212 posted on 04/29/2003 12:25:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Name me one that was destroyed that hadn't fallen into some kind of gross sin...idolatry, homosexuality, bestiality, total disregard for human life....

i will leave aside "gross sin", "bestiality", and "total disregard for human life" since they were not a part of your original claim, to which i was responding.

to cite only the most obvious and recent example: the nazi regime in germany, which was destroyed, not only failed to accept homosexuals, but actively and vehemently persecuted them.

perhaps you will claim it was not God who destroyed the nazi's but the devil, to punish them for failing to support his evil gay agenda.

213 posted on 04/29/2003 12:33:31 PM PDT by jethropalerobber
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To: EternalVigilance
...the vast majority of the sovereign citizens of the US knew the difference between right and wrong...

so, as you say, right and wrong is decided by the majority.

214 posted on 04/29/2003 12:36:20 PM PDT by jethropalerobber
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To: jethropalerobber
That's how it works in a representative government.

On what would you base your conception of what is right and what is wrong?
215 posted on 04/29/2003 12:37:44 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Asclepius

Nope, just a healthy disgust for homosexual behavior and the agressive homosexual agenda.

You folks should have left well enough alone.

216 posted on 04/29/2003 12:38:16 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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To: EternalVigilance
You're wasting pearls on pagans.
217 posted on 04/29/2003 12:39:01 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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To: jethropalerobber
German society was degraded badly in the 20s and 30s. They abandoned God, and as always happens, something else came in to fill the vacuum.
218 posted on 04/29/2003 12:39:17 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Jhoffa_
I know.
219 posted on 04/29/2003 12:40:35 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
That's how it works in a representative government.

is sodomy "right" in illinois, but "wrong" is texas?

that is what your "majority makes right" stance implies, which is why i wonder if that is really what you mean.

220 posted on 04/29/2003 12:43:11 PM PDT by jethropalerobber
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