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Iraqi Delegates Gather for Gov't Talks
Yahoo! News ^ | 4/28/03 | Charles J. Hanley - AP Special Correspondent

Posted on 04/28/2003 9:45:13 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Iraqi Delegates Gather for Gov't Talks

By CHARLES J. HANLEY, AP Special Correspondent

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Stressing unity in a divided land, more than 200 delegates from inside and outside Iraq (news - web sites) haggled Monday over Iraq's future, meeting in Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s elaborate convention hall under the protection of a ring of U.S. tanks.

Clear differences among the delegates emerged on the United States' involvement, with exiles generally seeking a diminished role for Washington.

Elsewhere, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld visited Camp As Sayliyah in Qatar, thanking U.S. troops for removing Saddam: "You protected our country from a gathering danger and liberated the Iraqi people."

In the north, Kurdish paramilitary forces in Mosul began complying with U.S. Army orders to stop armed patrols at checkpoints to relieve tensions there between Arabs and Kurds, U.S. officials said.

The meeting in Baghdad coincided with Saddam's 66th birthday. For years, April 28 was a national holiday filled with official celebration and enforced adulation of the authoritarian leader, who was "unanimously" endorsed by voters over the years in unopposed "elections."

After an opening reading from the Quran, the 250 delegates, including a few women, were welcomed by the U.S. civil administrator for Iraq.

"Today, on the birthday of Saddam Hussein, let us start the democratic process for the children of Iraq," retired U.S. Lt. Gen. Jay Garner told the delegates.

Shiite and Sunni Muslim clerics in robes, Kurds from the north, tribal chiefs in Arab headdresses and Westernized exiles in expensive suits assembled for the one-day political conference, second in a series expected to extend well into May.

"We hope we can form a unified government, one that reflects the entire spectrum of Iraq," said Ahmad Jaber al-Awadi, a representative of the newly formed Iraqi Independent Democrats Movement.

One prominent exile, Saad al-Bazzaz, said many delegates had discussed the possibility of a presidential council rather than naming a single leader for Iraq.

"I'm not expecting one person as president. I'm expecting a presidential council" of three to six members, he said. "We have been discussing this, many of us."

But many focused on the immediate need for security in a country where the ouster of the Saddam government three weeks ago touched off a rampage of looting, arson and general lawlessness.

"The lack of security threatens our newborn democracy. Security must be restored for this experience to survive," Saadoun Dulaimi, a returned exiled politician, told fellow delegates.

In a sign of new cooperation, the Supreme Council of the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, an Iran-based group of Shiite Muslim exiles, sent a low-level delegation to the Baghdad conference. The council had boycotted the first meeting on April 15, and high-ranking members refused to attend Monday's conference in protest of its U.S. sponsorship, said Hamid al-Bayati, a London spokesman for the group.

Those from outside the country generally said only Iraqis should rule Iraq.

"We are having healthy discussions between people inside Iraq and who were outside Iraq," said Mustapha Qazwin, a sheikh and doctor who lives in the United States. "This is a democratic process, and we are still debating the best route forward."

Non-exiles generally want the Americans to have a direct role in the interim period to prepare for elections. "We are not ready to handle this yet," said Suheil al-Suheil, a Baghdad lawyer. "Saddam's orphans are still alive."

Garner's office said a third conference will be held in northern Iraq soon. Delegates said it would likely be in Mosul in two to three weeks.

Coming home after years abroad, Iraqis hugged and kissed as the gathering began. "In Baghdad?" one delegate asked another in disbelief. "Yes, in Baghdad," the other replied.

In the streets, thousands of demonstrators marched through the sun-baked capital calling for unity of Shiite and Sunni Muslims, of Iraqi Arabs and Iraqi Kurds.

But in a symptom of the disorganization and communications problems that have plagued the U.S. occupation, dozens of delegates couldn't reach the hall immediately. Instead, they drove in circles around traffic-choked central Baghdad, repeatedly blocked by Army checkpoints. The opening was delayed by two hours.

On a downtown street, an Iraqi air force colonel, Hussein al-Khafaji, took note of how different Saddam's birthday was this year.

"Whenever we had those elections for president, everyone voted for him 100 percent," he told a reporter. "And today nothing will happen, and this will prove that none of us liked him, not a one."

On central Saddoun Street, a ragged man carried a placard aloft depicting Saddam with horns and a noose around his neck. "This is your birthday. Shame on you," it read.

In southern Iraq, on the main road north out of Basra, about 50 marchers appeared bearing an effigy of Saddam fashioned from rags. As a crowd gathered, they threw the effigy to the ground, stomped on it and set it on fire.

"No, no, Saddam. Yes, yes, Islam," shouted members of the group.

In Qatar, Rumsfeld said the U.S.-led war in Iraq was a historic success that will influence military doctrine for decades. "Baghdad was liberated in less than a month, possibly the fastest march on a capital in modern military history," Rumsfeld said.

After talks with the United Arab Emirates' defense minister and chief of staff on Sunday, Rumsfeld and Gen. Tommy Franks said U.S. military forces were not going to leave the region any time soon. Franks, commander of U.S. troops in the region, said he wanted to continue operations at Camp As Sayliyah, which was completed just before the war began.

Franks is considering relocating the air operations center from Saudi Arabia's Prince Sultan Air Base to Qatar, officials said.

In other developments Sunday:

_ The U.S. military flexed its political muscle by arresting Mohammed Mohsen al-Zubaidi, the self-proclaimed mayor of the capital, "for exercising authority which was not his." Al-Zubaidi is a returned exile associated with the opposition Iraqi National Congress.

_ Lt. Gen. Hossam Mohammed Amin, Iraq's chief liaison to U.N. weapons inspectors, surrendered to U.S. forces. He was No. 49 on the U.S. list of the 55 most-wanted figures from the Saddam regime, the six of clubs in the deck of playing cards that listed the fugitives.

_ A dozen 55-gallon drums were found in an open field near the northern Iraqi town of Baiji. While initial tests indicated one drum might contain the nerve agent cyclosarin and a blister agent that could be mustard gas, The New York Times reported subsequent tests proved negative.




TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: delegates; democracy; gather; govt; interimauthority; iraq; iraqi; iraqifreedom; postwariraq; rumsfeld; talks

1 posted on 04/28/2003 9:45:14 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Iraqi Muslim Shiite clerics, from the powerful Hawza Shiite religious school in the holy city of Najaf, lead a demonstration outside the Palestine Hotel in Baghdad Monday, April 28, 2003 to call for greater representation for Shiites in the formation of a new Iraqi government. More than 200 delegates from inside and outside Iraq, stressing a theme of unity in a divided land, met Monday behind a wall of U.S. Army tanks guarding Saddam Hussein's showcase convention hall to search for agreement on a new government to replace the ousted dictator. (AP Photo/Hussein Malla)
Mon Apr 28,10:18 AM ET

Iraqi Muslim Shiite clerics, from the powerful Hawza Shiite religious school in the holy city of Najaf, lead a demonstration outside the Palestine Hotel in Baghdad Monday, April 28, 2003 to call for greater representation for Shiites in the formation of a new Iraqi government. More than 200 delegates from inside and outside Iraq (news - web sites), stressing a theme of unity in a divided land, met Monday behind a wall of U.S. Army tanks guarding Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s showcase convention hall to search for agreement on a new government to replace the ousted dictator. (AP Photo/Hussein Malla)

2 posted on 04/28/2003 10:16:48 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic)
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And here in Michigan...


Iraqi-Americans join in a celebration prior to President Bush (news - web sites)'s visit to Dearborn, Mich., Monday, April 28,2003. President Bush is touting his administration's efforts to plant the seeds of democracy in the rubble of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s toppled dictatorship, courting Michigan's Arab community with an eye on his re-election. Dearborn, is a Detroit suburb where about 30 percent of residents claimed Arab ancestry in the latest census.(AP Photo/Paul Sancya)

3 posted on 04/28/2003 10:21:09 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic)
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Reuters article on Yahoo! News

Splits Emerge Over U.S. Role at Iraq Talks

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Splits emerged between Iraqis and returned Iraqi exiles in talks over the U.S. role in an interim government on Monday, delegates at a meeting with the country's American postwar administrator said.

Most former exiles wanted a lesser U.S. role, arguing that only Iraqis should rule the country, while those who had not left Iraq (news - web sites) said they wanted more U.S. supervision because they did not trust those who returned after Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s fall.

"There are differences over the role of the Americans. We here prefer the Americans to rule us in the interim period," said Suheil al-Suheil, a Baghdad lawyer. "We are not ready to handle this yet. Saddam's orphans are still alive."

U.S. and British officials said they would hold a third meeting with prominent Iraqis on the country's political future in northern Iraq next month. Delegates said it would most likely be in the city of Mosul in two or three weeks.

4 posted on 04/28/2003 11:46:19 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic)
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Iraq Delegates Agree to Meet In a Month (Update for AP article)

By CHARLES J. HANLEY, AP Special Correspondent

BAGHDAD, Iraq - An all-day meeting of U.S. administrators and delegates from Iraq (news - web sites)'s political factions agreed Monday to convene a larger conference within a month that will select an interim government for the war-torn nation.

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Zalmay Khalilzad, envoy to President Bush (news - web sites), said he hoped the meeting would take place within that period.

"Hopefully we will have this national meeting which will select or elect this interim authority," Khalilzad said.

The meeting was attended by 300 people from groups from inside and outside Iraq.

It was the second such meeting to plant the seeds of a new Iraqi government. The first was held earlier this month in the ancient city of Ur in southern Iraq.

Shiite and Sunni Muslim clerics in robes, Kurds from the north, tribal chiefs in Arab headdresses and Westernized exiles in expensive suits came together for the conference.

The meeting took place in the heart of the capital, in Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s convention center, three weeks after U.S. forces took Baghdad and sent Saddam packing — or possibly left him dead.

Since then, members of opposition groups long banned under Saddam's regime have been streaming back to Baghdad, hoping to play a part in the process of forming a new leadership foundation.

Clear differences among the delegates emerged on the United States' involvement, with exiles generally seeking a diminished role for Washington.

Elsewhere, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld visited Camp As Sayliyah in Qatar, thanking U.S. troops for removing Saddam: "You protected our country from a gathering danger and liberated the Iraqi people."

In the north, Kurdish paramilitary forces in Mosul began complying with U.S. Army orders to stop armed patrols at checkpoints to relieve tensions there between Arabs and Kurds, U.S. officials said.

The meeting in Baghdad coincided with Saddam's 66th birthday. For years, April 28 was a national holiday filled with official celebration and enforced adulation of the authoritarian leader, who was "unanimously" endorsed by voters over the years in unopposed "elections."

After an opening reading from the Quran, the 250 delegates, including a few women, were welcomed by the U.S. civil administrator for Iraq.

"Today, on the birthday of Saddam Hussein, let us start the democratic process for the children of Iraq," retired U.S. Lt. Gen. Jay Garner told the delegates.

Shiite and Sunni Muslim clerics in robes, Kurds from the north, tribal chiefs in Arab headdresses and Westernized exiles in expensive suits assembled for the one-day political conference, second in a series expected to extend well into May.

"We hope we can form a unified government, one that reflects the entire spectrum of Iraq," said Ahmad Jaber al-Awadi, a representative of the newly formed Iraqi Independent Democrats Movement.

One prominent exile, Saad al-Bazzaz, said many delegates had discussed the possibility of a presidential council rather than naming a single leader for Iraq.

"I'm not expecting one person as president. I'm expecting a presidential council" of three to six members, he said. "We have been discussing this, many of us."

But many focused on the immediate need for security in a country where the ouster of the Saddam government three weeks ago touched off a rampage of looting, arson and general lawlessness.

"The lack of security threatens our newborn democracy. Security must be restored for this experience to survive," Saadoun Dulaimi, a returned exiled politician, told fellow delegates.

In a sign of new cooperation, the Supreme Council of the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, an Iran-based group of Shiite Muslim exiles, sent a low-level delegation to the Baghdad conference. The council had boycotted the first meeting on April 15, and high-ranking members refused to attend Monday's conference in protest of its U.S. sponsorship, said Hamid al-Bayati, a London spokesman for the group.

Those from outside the country generally said only Iraqis should rule Iraq.

"We are having healthy discussions between people inside Iraq and who were outside Iraq," said Mustapha Qazwin, a sheikh and doctor who lives in the United States. "This is a democratic process, and we are still debating the best route forward."

Non-exiles generally want the Americans to have a direct role in the interim period to prepare for elections. "We are not ready to handle this yet," said Suheil al-Suheil, a Baghdad lawyer. "Saddam's orphans are still alive."

Coming home after years abroad, Iraqis hugged and kissed as the gathering began. "In Baghdad?" one delegate asked another in disbelief. "Yes, in Baghdad," the other replied.

In the streets, thousands of demonstrators marched through the sun-baked capital calling for unity of Shiite and Sunni Muslims, of Iraqi Arabs and Iraqi Kurds.

But in a symptom of the disorganization and communications problems that have plagued the U.S. occupation, dozens of delegates couldn't reach the hall immediately. Instead, they drove in circles around traffic-choked central Baghdad, repeatedly blocked by Army checkpoints. The opening was delayed by two hours.

On a downtown street, an Iraqi air force colonel, Hussein al-Khafaji, took note of how different Saddam's birthday was this year.

"Whenever we had those elections for president, everyone voted for him 100 percent," he told a reporter. "And today nothing will happen, and this will prove that none of us liked him, not a one."

On central Saddoun Street, a ragged man carried a placard aloft depicting Saddam with horns and a noose around his neck. "This is your birthday. Shame on you," it read.

In southern Iraq, on the main road north out of Basra, about 50 marchers appeared bearing an effigy of Saddam fashioned from rags. As a crowd gathered, they threw the effigy to the ground, stomped on it and set it on fire.

"No, no, Saddam. Yes, yes, Islam," shouted members of the group.

In Qatar, Rumsfeld said the U.S.-led war in Iraq was a historic success that will influence military doctrine for decades. "Baghdad was liberated in less than a month, possibly the fastest march on a capital in modern military history," Rumsfeld said.

After talks with the United Arab Emirates' defense minister and chief of staff on Sunday, Rumsfeld and Gen. Tommy Franks said U.S. military forces were not going to leave the region any time soon. Franks, commander of U.S. troops in the region, said he wanted to continue operations at Camp As Sayliyah, which was completed just before the war began.

Franks is considering relocating the air operations center from Saudi Arabia's Prince Sultan Air Base to Qatar, officials said.

In other developments Sunday:

_ The U.S. military flexed its political muscle by arresting Mohammed Mohsen al-Zubaidi, the self-proclaimed mayor of the capital, "for exercising authority which was not his." Al-Zubaidi is a returned exile associated with the opposition Iraqi National Congress.

_ Lt. Gen. Hossam Mohammed Amin, Iraq's chief liaison to U.N. weapons inspectors, surrendered to U.S. forces. He was No. 49 on the U.S. list of the 55 most-wanted figures from the Saddam regime, the six of clubs in the deck of playing cards that listed the fugitives.

_ A dozen 55-gallon drums were found in an open field near the northern Iraqi town of Baiji. While initial tests indicated one drum might contain the nerve agent cyclosarin and a blister agent that could be mustard gas, The New York Times reported subsequent tests proved negative.



5 posted on 04/28/2003 11:51:53 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic)
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