Posted on 04/28/2003 1:22:36 AM PDT by Dada Orwell
Morning, FReepers! I have some news I thought might interest you:
Free State Project Member Services Director Tim Condon was apparently arrested Sunday for handing out FSP literature at an NRA convention in Orlando. This according to FSP president Jason Sorens.
Many Free Staters and gun rights advocates were already angry at the NRA for leaning too far left on certain gun control issues. Yesterday's arrest seems to be focusing new attention on the NRA's perceived shortcomings.
Details are on the FSP forum at: http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=1647;start=0#lastPost
Dada Liberty in Our Lifetime freestateproject.org
My first thought was tresspassing. What does this have to do with Laci and Conner Peterson? Zilch.
I wonder how much money that'd lose for them....
Judging from personal experience, I'd say his assessment was less-than-flattering for the Libbies. He had a knack for encapsulating things in very plain language. Once when I asked him what a radical was, his answer was simply, "Someone who wants to get a cushy job by overthrowing the guy who already has it."
-Jay
I've gotten permission from Tim to post this:
Greetings everyone. My apologies for not getting to you before now. My home network has gone into full meltdown mode and I lost my Internet access, necessitating printing out a huge volume of emails and bringing them to my office. Yes, I was arrested yesterday morning out side the Orange County Convention Center (Orlando, FL) for handing out FSP literature and refusing to cease doing so; I was then told to leave the (public) premises or I would be cited for "trespassing." I refused to leave, noting to the assembled security personnel and sheriff's deputies that I was on public (county) property, and that as such I had a right under the 1st Amendment to pass out literature at that venue. I also pointed out to them that I was a paid-up member of the NRA, I was a registered participant of the NRA convention, I was wearing an NRA sticker on my Free State Project T-shirt, the literature I was passing out was pro-gun rights (like the NRA's ostensible position), that no one was being impeded, and that the NRA members liked the content of the brochure (our tri-fold) and appreciated the Free State Project. (I did not at the time point out that on Friday there were other people handing out NRA literature along with me, nor that the following day, Saturday, those same people were handing out NRA literature inside the doors to the convention hall (which I never entered; all leafleting was done outside the doors to the convention center; people were handed FSP literature when they were entering or leaving the building). Upon telling them that I would not leave, and why, I was arrested under a state trespassing statute which I believe is a constitutional statute when applied to private property, but which was being utilized in an unconstitutional manner here. I was held for 12 hours at the Orange County jail, treated well by the sheriff's office personnel (who were probably treating me with kid-gloves because they knew I was a lawyer, and that this was a constitutional/civil rights challenge), before being bonded out on $500 bond by my wife Michele, who was working on it from Tampa, 100 miles away.
Jason Sorens, founder of the Free State Project, wrote:
I've gotten permission from Tim to post this.
Greetings everyone. My apologies for not getting to you before now. My home network has gone into full meltdown mode and I lost my Internet access, necessitating printing out a huge volume of emails and bringing them to my office. Yes, I was arrested yesterday morning out side the Orange County Convention Center (Orlando, FL) for handing out FSP literature and refusing to cease doing so; I was then told to leave the (public) premises or I would be cited for "trespassing." I refused to leave, noting to the assembled security personnel and sheriff's deputies that I was on public (county) property, and that as such I had a right under the 1st Amendment to pass out literature at that venue. I also pointed out to them that I was a paid-up member of the NRA, I was a registered participant of the NRA convention, I was wearing an NRA sticker on my Free State Project T-shirt, the literature I was passing out was pro-gun rights (like the NRA's ostensible position), that no one was being impeded, and that the NRA members liked the content of the brochure (our tri-fold) and appreciated the Free State Project. (I did not at the time point out that on Friday there were other people handing out NRA literature along with me, nor that the following day, Saturday, those same people were handing out NRA literature inside the doors to the convention hall (which I never entered; all leafleting was done outside the doors to the convention center; people were handed FSP literature when they were entering or leaving the building). Upon telling them that I would not leave, and why, I was arrested under a state trespassing statute which I believe is a constitutional statute when applied to private property, but which was being utilized in an unconstitutional manner here. I was held for 12 hours at the Orange County jail, treated well by the sheriff's office personnel (who were probably treating me with kid-gloves because they knew I was a lawyer, and that this was a constitutional/civil rights challenge), before being bonded out on $500 bond by my wife Michele, who was working on it from Tampa, 100 miles away.
So, who knows but, don't think that the feds will just ignore it and let it threaten the status quo.
That was just before he gave his primary signature statement of "they'll take my M1A1 Abrams when they pry my smoking, charred corpse out of its blackened turret".
Was a time, half of the political ideology espoused on this board was libertarian(as I recall).
The problem *now* is that the Republican Party doesn't feel like it can walk the libertarian walk for fear of losing votes, not to mention damaging the vested interests of many big donors. So the Republican talking points coming out via every pubbie outlet are slandering the name "libertarian" so that the party faithful won't think about it, pressure the Party to live up to it, or stray from the fold.
And the artificial buzz buzzes loud here on FR.
Yep. I've got a picture of him, protesting outside the Australian consular offices in California. I really should retype an article on all this from the Libertarian magazine of the time, and post it on FR. A lot of the newer Libs would probably be interested?
What a disgusting and contemptible thing to write about someone you never even met, all because you hate his philosophy. You really are a disgrace at times, Cultural Jihad.
If you reviewed his posts, you could see that confrontation coming - you could see the building hysteria, the paranoia, the loss of perspective, rationality, human decency and common sense. These threads often bring those elements out.
Of course, what was even more disgusting and contemptible were those who either excused, whitewashed or otherwise tried to justify a heinous act.
At which point the cop probably arrested him just to shut him up. Sometimes it is best to simply close your mouth and do what the nice policeman tells you to do.
He he he.
Yeah, ping your posse, so I only have to say this once: you're a liar. Matsuidon was one of the calmest and most gentlemanly posters on FR, or anywhere else. Your whole bunch on their best day couldn't hold a candle to him, in debate. So I can see why you're so keen to smear him now he's dead.
Want to talk about how he escalated a traffic stop into a full scale gun battle, where the aggression was all his?
Calm and gentlemanly, my a**.
Want to talk about how he escalated a traffic stop into a full scale gun battle, where the aggression was all his?
Calm and gentlemanly, my a**.
I'm sure he was "calm and gentlemanly" as he opened fire on the police, right?
He said that if the police officer had not sworn an oath to HIS (matsuidon's) personal satisfaction, that was a capital crime.
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