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I thought you were clearly drawing a paralletl bewteen "left" and "nihilism/license." Guess not, then. Well, now you really have me confused.

Also, I advocate very little except that one be willing to distinguish between truth and lies.

A direct and forthright answer was all I asked for on what you advocate. You're clearly playing rhetorical semantics, now.

Fine, by "progress" I'll point to abolishing slavery and giving women the right to vote. The rise of capitalism. Whatever you like. Anything "positive" that's come about since the Renaissance.

I'm not the usual "innarticulate" FR poster ("bless them"). Please cut thru the rhetorics. Or not. You had something thought provoking posts and I was curious what you advocate in concrete, real terms. Or else we're forever talking conceptual circles around each other. A caution for over-intellectualizing, if you will.

Yeah, you are right, lurky. Actually I do see "left" as "nihilism/licentiousness." I got that mostly from Kuenelt-Leddihn. (Austrian writer, polyglot, Catholic man of the Right.) I see a "conservative" as a person reacting against leftism. I think Austrian economics is probably true and clearly explains the Great Depression and the recent Bubble. I have worked against the Left for more than 35 years, but never got anywhere. I think Saint Augustine was correct about government, it is punishment for our sin. I love my family. I am an adult convert to Catholicism from materialism. I read a lot, mostly serious these days, and am a recovering pessimist. As far as my politics, well, like war, what needs to be done is simple, but those simple things are extremely difficult to accomplish. It would be nice to keep the Left divided and weak. I'd like to see Nader and Sharpton run hard for President as independent candidates. Ask what you want, I'll not hide behind rhetorical tricks.