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Shrine today,hard sell tomorrow
Modesto Bee ^ | 4/26/03 | Jack Doo

Posted on 04/27/2003 8:06:16 AM PDT by RGSpincich

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:56:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Velveeta
"Have you all seen this???"

SP's Life expectancy just wilted.....Assume the position Bi ch...;-0)

Great find...vel. Ya made ma day Luv....;-)

41 posted on 04/27/2003 12:16:26 PM PDT by STOCKHRSE (God Bless and keep our Commander In Chief....We are expendable...)
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To: clouda
yes, that is who I was thinking....thank you!
42 posted on 04/27/2003 12:16:33 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: Velveeta; blondee123
Thanks , Vel. This is amazing. If they could keep this discovery quiet, it shows that there could well be plenty of forensic evidence that has not been leaked. Some say nothing has leaked out because they have nothing, I doubt that. Now, even more than before.
43 posted on 04/27/2003 12:21:30 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
Mucho gracias amigo RG
44 posted on 04/27/2003 12:21:58 PM PDT by STOCKHRSE (God Bless and keep our Commander In Chief....We are expendable...)
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To: RGSpincich; Velveeta
Wow - thanks for the ping to #29, RG. Good find, Velveeta. Sure makes sense.... They really seemed to be on a "mission" back in March when they went back to that area searching and then the weather turned so bad.
45 posted on 04/27/2003 12:44:59 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Velveeta; RGSpincich
Great find, Vel!

And thanks for the alert, RG!

I agree that there must be tons of information that LE is keeping quiet. We haven't heard a fraction of what they must have found, especially at the crime scene.
46 posted on 04/27/2003 12:49:47 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Arthalion
"My sister lives just down the street from the Peterson house and was looking at selling recently (she's sick of the media attention...her kids can't even play in their own yard!)."

Oh I See....And would you mind telling the STOCKHRSE your whereabouts on or about Dec. 23 2002 From Dusk On please....Get this down on paper ya'll...Just the facts lady.....;-0)

47 posted on 04/27/2003 12:55:02 PM PDT by STOCKHRSE (God Bless and keep our Commander In Chief....We are expendable...)
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To: Velveeta
Let's see, could this ALSO be around the time that they declared it to be a homicide investigation also?
48 posted on 04/27/2003 1:00:46 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: Rheo
"Wasn't that the Wards?...can't remember the first name. But didn't he say Scott called him on the 23rd, after fishing and then called back to see if they had seen Laci?..or do I have 2 different people mixed..."

No Rhe...Me thinks ya got the date date mixed up. Scott went fishing(?) on the 24th and thats when SP called the Wards twice....

49 posted on 04/27/2003 1:04:38 PM PDT by STOCKHRSE (God Bless and keep our Commander In Chief....We are expendable...)
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To: RGSpincich
thanks...link....RG...;-)
50 posted on 04/27/2003 1:12:35 PM PDT by STOCKHRSE (God Bless and keep our Commander In Chief....We are expendable...)
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To: RGSpincich
but the real estate questions already are flying:

A lawyers playground. I would imagine Scott's half will go to legal fees.

51 posted on 04/27/2003 1:12:44 PM PDT by Flyer (We like Dix!)
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To: RGSpincich
Thanks for the ping! It does make the law more clear. It will be interesting how this plays into the whole scenario.
52 posted on 04/27/2003 1:15:02 PM PDT by landerwy
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To: clouda; Rheo
Yes...Reed not Ward...Thank you Clouda...;-)
53 posted on 04/27/2003 1:16:00 PM PDT by STOCKHRSE (God Bless and keep our Commander In Chief....We are expendable...)
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Yes, thanks Stockhrse, Rheo and Clouda for post #40 with all the information.

Sorry it took so long for my reply. I just got back to the thread, I had to run my son home from church and fix lunch.

I guess I might as well pose another question, it occured to me while reading Ron Frey's comments from the NYP article Howlin posted, that while Amber is in hiding from the media, they(her parents) are caring for her daughter. In a separate article Velveeta posted two days ago, from the NE, it stated LE provided security for Amber on a trip to Florida. The fear was that Scott Peterson might do her harm. Since Scott is now in custody, do you think LE is providing the money for Amber to hide from the media. The reason I was wondering is we have seen nothing from her in so long, it is almost like she has disappeared into the witness protection program.
54 posted on 04/27/2003 1:16:52 PM PDT by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: RGSpincich
You bet, how they kept this under wraps is amazing. Also, as others have said, unfortunately, I do think this also helps explain the missing limbs. I still think they might find weights etc and lines/hooks/anchors from Scott, but with tankers and dredging, that would really stir up those waters.
55 posted on 04/27/2003 1:18:50 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts (RB and RG have memories like elephants, thankfully, for those of us who read but post infrequently)
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To: Velveeta
But before they could retrieve the bodies, they believe a heavily laden tanker passed over or near the burial spot, churning up the channel's bottom and dislodging the sunken corpses.

I am sitting here banging my forehead on the keyboard... WHY they did NOT retreive the remains the FIRST time they found them floors me. I don't CARE how bad the weather was. With the COMPLETE remains there might be a way to determine death (ie. skull or hypiod bone fracture.)

The only excuse could be that they DO have some VERY FACTUAL evidence against SP that ties him to the murder. They do realize that without the head being weighed down by the body it is going to "drift" with every boat, passing tide, etc... and forget about the hypoid bone exam.

56 posted on 04/27/2003 1:20:40 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: Velveeta
Wow! Amazing find. It also might explain why people driving by the Point Isabel location are seeing so little search activity.
57 posted on 04/27/2003 1:32:41 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Rusty Roberts; STOCKHRSE; Velveeta; All
So, what does this do to the "she was stuffed in a blue drum with cement" theory? Wouldn't side-cam sonar have picked that up if it were in the bay? Or is the theory now that the missing limbs are in the drum.
58 posted on 04/27/2003 2:00:55 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Sandylapper
So, what does this do to the "she was stuffed in a blue drum with cement" theory? Wouldn't side-cam sonar have picked that up if it were in the bay? Or is the theory now that the missing limbs are in the drum.

Red herring.

59 posted on 04/27/2003 2:18:47 PM PDT by alexandria
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NY Post

MAN OF MANY FACES

By SAM SMITH and HOWARD BREUER --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

April 27, 2003 -- WHEN Scott Peterson met his future mother-in-law for the first time, he turned up with two dozen roses. Twelve red ones for his new girlfriend Laci - and a bouquet of 12 white roses that he presented to her mother, Sharon.

They were suitably impressed, and Sharon would say later that it was at that moment she knew Laci was in love.

Both women, it seemed, had been won over by the charm and confidence of a man who, according to friends, is always cool in a crisis.

It was a trait Peterson first showed as a standout on his school golf team at University HS in San Diego.

"On the golf course, there were guys who would lose their tempers. Not Scott," said former teammate Cort Peters. "He was an easygoing guy."

It was the same determination Peterson used in his business as a fertilizer salesman in the lucrative but intensely competitive agriculture belt of California's San Joaquin Valley. Peterson was very convincing and persistent, his clients say.

Peterson apparently also put on his game face when he cheated on Laci and had an affair with Fresno masseuse Amber Frey, whom he told he was a widower whose wife had died a year earlier.

And now, prosecutors charge, Peterson has lied for far more sinister purposes.

Peterson is accused of killing his 27-year-old pregnant wife, dumping her body in San Francisco Bay and faking grief as he took part in a huge search to find her.

Laci's headless body washed up on the shore almost two weeks ago. The body of her unborn son, Connor, had been found the previous day, several miles away.

Scott Peterson reported his wife missing on Christmas Eve. He said she disappeared while he was alone on a fishing trip.

Investigators say a telephone call that night is a chilling insight into Peterson's steely nerve and well-honed ability to mask his emotions.

With his wife's whereabouts unknown, according to his story to cops, Peterson rang Greg Reed -a friend whose wife was also pregnant - to make plans for New Year's Eve.

Cops suspect the call may have been Scott's first step toward building an alibi.

"He sounded chipper and looking forward to getting together," Reed said last week as he recalled the phone call.

Peterson liked to socialize - evidenced by parties he hosted with Laci and his dates with Amber. But he could also be a distant loner.

The 30-year-old is the youngest in a family of seven kids. From an early age, he showed a passion for fishing.

While the rest of the family went golfing, Scott would wander alone to a lake near the course and stay there all day.

Although he was popular on the golf team, by the time he got to college, Peterson had buried himself in three part-time jobs to help pay for his tuition.

And when he met Laci Rocha while waiting tables at the Pacific Cafe in Morro Bay in 1994, he lured her with an unusual first date - he took her fishing.

Laci was hooked, and three years later they married.

As newlyweds, the young couple bought The Shack, a burger joint in San Luis Obispo, which they turned into a student hotspot.

Eventually tiring of the workload, they sold the place two years later and moved to Modesto to start a family. They rented an apartment before buying a fixer-upper home.

To his friends and family, Scott seemed to be juggling his new life effortlessly, remodeling the house, working a new job and celebrating his wife's first pregnancy.

"I know he put a lot of hours into making that baby room just right," said Guy Miligi, one of Scott's friends. "He was real excited about having his first child."

The truth though, cops say, was that Peterson secretly fostered an affair 100 miles away in Fresno with Frey, 28, whom he had met through a colleague.

For weeks, he led a double life. One night, he would be at home with Laci. The next day, he would head off "on business," which often turned out to be his weekly visits to Amber.

In the days approaching Christmas - when the demands of Laci's advancing pregnancy and Amber's holiday social calendar began to clash - neighbors of the Petersons say they started to notice cracks in the facade of the couple's storybook marriage.

Laci "always carried her own groceries in," recalled neighbor Penny Fleischman. "I never saw him help her."

And Scott grew increasingly intolerant of Laci's cats, another neighbor said. Later, after Laci had disappeared, Peterson was spotted kicking one of them as he returned to the house for the last time.

60 posted on 04/27/2003 2:29:28 PM PDT by clouda
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