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Gee, that Judge sure was hard on her. (Sarcasm off)
1 posted on 04/26/2003 9:21:27 PM PDT by DeepInEnemyTerritory
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To: DeepInEnemyTerritory
The child is better off being sold when a mother wants to sell it.
2 posted on 04/26/2003 9:22:40 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: DeepInEnemyTerritory
The adoption system in this country is so screwed up. She didn't leave the baby in a dumpster, or abort, and odds are good that this has been a pretty painful experience. I'd be quite content with the sentence if it included sterilization, but we don't do that...someone explain to me again why we don't do that?
3 posted on 04/26/2003 9:24:11 PM PDT by ChemistCat (My new bumper sticker: MY OTHER DRIVER IS A ROCKET SCIENTIST)
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To: DeepInEnemyTerritory
"She admitted turning her life around is very difficult, called the judge's decision fair, and said it is her hope now that she can go to college, turn her life around and get a professional job."

At 29? Get a grip. TG she sold the kid, he/she is better off.

4 posted on 04/26/2003 9:43:07 PM PDT by annyokie
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To: DeepInEnemyTerritory
The real question is whether the child went to a loving family or into the hands of some pervert. That should make the difference between a very harsh penalty and a milder one.
5 posted on 04/26/2003 9:46:31 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: DeepInEnemyTerritory
I don't know how I feel about this.

I don't think it's beneficial to turn children into something to be bought, sold and bartered at all.

In this case however, I am glad she sold it as opposed to going off the deep and and doing a Susan Smith or a what's-her-name in Texas. If she's (by her own admission) drinking heavily and on drugs, I would say that's a possibility.

I am just glad everyone is alright.. It could have been allot worse.

6 posted on 04/26/2003 9:53:56 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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To: DeepInEnemyTerritory
King County Superior Court judge Richard McDermott also sentenced her to a year of probation, saying, "I still find it amazing, to some degree inexplicable," that she could give a child away or sell it.

You gotta be kidding me. She could've had the baby's brains violently sucked out moments before it was fully delivered and she would've been perfectly within her "Constitutional" rights.

THAT'S amazing.

9 posted on 04/26/2003 11:08:58 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: DeepInEnemyTerritory
whats the difference between her selling her child and an adoption agency taking money? Or do they not take money?
If she was on drugs and out of control it seems to me it was better than putting the kid in a dumpster
11 posted on 04/27/2003 7:24:58 AM PDT by Walnut
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A Black Diamond man accused of helping his ex-girlfriend sell her baby for money she allegedly used to fund a shopping spree and pay a traffic ticket pleaded guilty yesterday to attempted child selling.

Kenneth S. Slape, 35, faces a sentence of up to a year in jail for the gross misdemeanor charge. King County prosecutors will recommend a three-month term at his Feb. 14 sentencing, spokesman Dan Donohoe said.

Slape initially was charged with child selling, a felony punishable by up to five years in prison. Charging papers say he agreed to help Virginia C. Ramsey sell her baby son in June 2001 after she had been complaining about the boy, then nearly 4 months old.

Ramsey, 28, told a Kent neighbor the baby was "getting on her nerves" and she couldn't handle him, charging papers say. The neighbor said Ramsey had just received an eviction notice and had to pay or move out.

Slape called his ex-wife, Tina B. Anderson of Kennewick, who agreed to take the baby and "give Ramsey some money to help her get on her feet," according to charging papers.

The three met at a Fred Meyer store in Covington where Anderson gave Ramsey an envelope full of $100 bills, charging papers say. Ramsey said she received $2,000 and that Slape told her she would get an additional $3,000 once the "adoption" was formalized, police said.

Prosecutors say she spent some of the cash to buy two Sony PlayStations, groceries and a VCR and spent some at a casino. Ramsey's 9-year-old son later told police his brother was adopted by "someone in Spokane that lives on a ranch," according to charging papers.

Anderson, 38, told detectives she consulted with lawyers before getting involved in the "adoption," and Ramsey claimed she gave up parental rights to her son, charging papers say.

The baby was taken into protective custody and examined at a hospital the next day. No serious medical problems were found, charging papers say, and the boy was placed in a foster home.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/134617149_babyseller17m.html
12 posted on 04/27/2003 9:10:28 AM PDT by DeepInEnemyTerritory
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To: DeepInEnemyTerritory
I don't like the idea of selling your child with almost no consequence.
On the other hand, she did the right thing by finding a new home for the child she clearly could not take care of properly. I do not want to discourage other mothers from taking that option verses dumping the baby into a dumpster, and taking this woman to the woodshed could lead someone else to make the wrong decision regarding their unwanted child.
I'm just glad the baby is OK. I think the judge should have ordered her to be on some type of birth control for at least a few years.
13 posted on 04/27/2003 9:28:42 AM PDT by DeepInEnemyTerritory
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To: DeepInEnemyTerritory
Who was the judge? Jane Fonda?
16 posted on 04/28/2003 3:36:17 PM PDT by shred
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