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France briefed Iraq on war: report
Nees.com.au ^
| April 27, 2003
Posted on 04/26/2003 8:35:32 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket
FRANCE gave Saddam Hussein's regime regular reports on its dealings with US officials, The Sunday Times reported, quoting files it had found in the wreckage of the Iraqi foreign ministry.
The conservative British weekly said the information kept Saddam abreast of every development in US planning and may have helped him to prepare for war.
One report warned of a US "attempt to involve Iraq with terrorism" as "cover for an attack on Iraq", according to The Sunday Times.
Another, dated September 25, 2001, from Naji Sabri, the Iraqi foreign minister, to Saddam's palace, was based on a briefing from the French ambassador in Baghdad and covered talks between presidents Jacques Chirac and US President George W Bush.
Chirac was said to have been told that the US was "100 per cent certain Osama bin Laden was behind the September 11 attacks and that the answer of the United States would be decisive".
The report also gave a detailed account of American attitudes towards Saddam amid anxiety in Iraq that the country might soon become a target of US reprisals.
"Information available to the French embassy in Washington suggests that there is no intention on the part of the Americans to attack Iraq, but that matters might change quickly," said one document from folders marked "France 2001" found by The Sunday Times.
Bernard Jenkin, defence spokesman for Britain's opposition Conservative Party, told the paper that the briefings went beyond diplomatic courtesies and pointed to French "duplicitousness".
France came in for sustained attack from Britain's tabloid press in the run-up to and during the Iraq war for opposing early military action against Saddam's regime, with the Sun newspaper notably labelling Chirac a "worm".
TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: axisofweasels; duplicity; france; iraq; iraqifreedom
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To: So Cal Rocket
Map for All!
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posted on
04/26/2003 8:37:38 PM PDT
by
annyokie
To: So Cal Rocket
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posted on
04/26/2003 8:38:12 PM PDT
by
Madcelt
(the right of self defence is an inherent and inalienable right -except for CVS)
To: So Cal Rocket
/There will be more. France's goose is cooked.
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posted on
04/26/2003 8:39:12 PM PDT
by
WaterDragon
(Only America has the moral authority and the resolve to lead the world in the 21st Century.)
To: Madcelt
bet = beat
5
posted on
04/26/2003 8:39:16 PM PDT
by
Madcelt
(the right of self defence is an inherent and inalienable right -except for CVS)
To: So Cal Rocket
All FREEPERS in favor of AMERICA BUILDING OUR OWN STATUE OF LIBERTY say "AYE". We can send France's back in pieces as it was recieved by us in the beginning.
To: annyokie
Is that a new map?
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posted on
04/26/2003 8:48:34 PM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: Cicero
'Tis my same old map. Just for conversation and passing around!
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posted on
04/26/2003 8:52:46 PM PDT
by
annyokie
To: annyokie
If you did it yourself, it is quite a creative effort. I am in awe and salute you.
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posted on
04/26/2003 8:56:02 PM PDT
by
Torie
To: So Cal Rocket
Cruising down the river, aboard a Rhone passenger barge with a fine (but unpretentious) French chef and a splendid wine cellar, is the idyllic way to savor the idiocies of the know-it-alls who turned out to know nothing about the war in Iraq.
The m.v. Provence, the pride of Continental Waterways and the queen of the Rhone locks, is further equipped with Internet access, CNN and a fax machine, making it easy to keep au courant (a visitor becomes fluent in menu French at the end of a fortnight's travels to plumb English and European attitudes) with what the pols and the pundits said, and how some of them are trying to cover up the evidence of their hubris and credulity. It's not easy.
Here at the mouth of the Rhone waterway, where Louis IX dispatched the seventh Crusade and a plaque in a park identifies the town as the birthplace of Charles de Gaulle (his official biographers place his birth at Lille, hundreds of miles northwest of here), you don't even have to miss the best of the insults to the French.
Some Frenchmen collect the American and British insults as eagerly as any patriot in Peoria.
Five reliably Anglo-Saxon surgeons, for example, were discussing their bloody trade.
"I prefer to operate on accountants," said the first. "All the parts inside are neatly numbered."
"Not at all," said the second, "the best patients are the electricians. Their organs are color-coded."
The third surgeon set out his preference for librarians: "Everything inside, you see, is arranged alphabetically. There's no mistaking anything."
The fourth surgeon made his case for construction workers. "They're very understanding if you have a few parts left over after the surgery, and they understand if you don't finish when you promised."
The last surgeon, whose wisdom and experience were belied by a fine shock of white hair, shook his head. "No, no," he said. "The French are the easiest patients of all. Everything is very simple and there's never a mess to clean up. There's no guts, no heart, no testicles, and no spine. Not only that, the head and the butt are completely interchangeable."
Jacques Chirac, scion of the race that invented arrogance, nevertheless managed a fairly graceful climb-down with a telephone call to George W. that the White House rightly described with a tone of cool dismissal. Gerhard Schroeder even managed an apology, sort of, conceding that he "much regrets" his "exaggerated" insults of the American president on the eve of battle.
But nobody has more to regret than some of our pundits, particular those of the New York Times, once regarded as a model of restraint (if not always as fair and balanced as it pretends to be). A bit of wit nevertheless occasionally emerges from the gray institutional humorlessness.
"Last September," Nicholas Kristof writes, "a gloom-and-doom columnist warned about Iraq: 'If we're going to invade, we need to prepare for a worst-case scenario involving street-to-street fighting.' Ahem. Yes, well, that was my body double while I was on vacation."
Johnny Apple, the Times' page-one pundit known affectionately to his colleagues as Johnny "Two Quagmires" Apple, has never found a body double up to such a big job, so his apologia for suggesting that the war in Iraq would swiftly descend into Stalingrad on the Tigris was not up to his usual polished and self-effacing standard. He tried this time to blend into the mob: "Nobody got it quite right." Quite right, but nobody else got it quite so wrong, polished or not: "With every passing day," he wrote on March 30, "it is more evident that the allies made ... gross military misjudgments." This was just before Tommy Franks' men began their tap-dance into Baghdad.
Peter Arnett is no longer the pretty face at CNN, so we couldn't get an update from his stern rebuke to the strategists in Washington and London, delivered just as "les Anglo-Saxons" began their strike into the heart of Saddam Hussein's crumbling empire. "The first war plan has failed," Mr. Arnett told us on March 30. "Clearly the American war planners misjudged the determination of the Iraqi forces, and I personally do not understand how this happened because I've been here many times and in my commentaries on television I would tell the Americans about the determination of Iraqi forces."
March 30, in fact, was a bleak day for the practitioners of columny. James Webb, who usually knows better, mocked the idea that the Americans would be greeted as liberators. "Welcome to hell," he wrote in the New York Times. "Many of us lived it in another era."
Just so. The generals are often accused of always trying to fight the previous war. That's a risk to the reputations of pols and the pundits, too. Google is so unfair
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posted on
04/26/2003 8:56:38 PM PDT
by
annyokie
To: Torie
(blushing)
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posted on
04/26/2003 8:57:10 PM PDT
by
annyokie
To: annyokie
The neat thing is that from what little I know of French towns, you played off the actual names. That is really cool.
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posted on
04/26/2003 9:00:46 PM PDT
by
Torie
To: annyokie
Great map Annie; says a lot, as if any thing else about the abhorent French needed to be said.
Unity of the West and pro-Western nations is a must if our democratic systems are to prevail over Muslim "paradises" and Chinese/Cuban "prisons." Seems like the well-educated French and Germans would already know this. Maybe they are impervious to education.....
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posted on
04/26/2003 9:03:01 PM PDT
by
Malcolm
To: Uncle George
Love the idea. I will reserve my AYE until I learn more about the French that the statue DID come from. In other words, if the statue was a gift from a people of a wholly different cloth than the French of today, we should keep the current one.
I do like the idea of bringing our soldiers buried at Normandy back home. The side benefit would be that we no longer would have to pay rent on the land where they are buried. Which gives me an idea. Why don't we charge France rent for the space taken up by Statue of Liberty?
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posted on
04/26/2003 9:10:23 PM PDT
by
bluefish
To: Uncle George
All FREEPERS in favor of AMERICA BUILDING OUR OWN STATUE OF LIBERTY say "AYE". We can send France's back in pieces as it was recieved by us in the beginning. No, I think it should stay. It will be a glaring reminder to them of what they were for a short period of time, and what they could have been. It will be a measure of how far they have fallen.
Becki
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posted on
04/26/2003 9:17:23 PM PDT
by
Becki
(Pray continually for our leaders and our troops!)
To: annyokie
A Baghdad Bob Production
(Photo Courteousy of Baghdad Bob)
YES - I Took That Photo At The Palace! So Sue Me!
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posted on
04/26/2003 9:27:20 PM PDT
by
Happy2BMe
(LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
To: So Cal Rocket
FRANCE gave Saddam Hussein's regime regular reports on its dealings with US officials, and kept Saddam abreast of every development in US planning and may have helped him to prepare for war.Yeah,...right /disgust off>
A lot of good the Frenchies were to Sooo...Dumb!
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posted on
04/26/2003 9:33:01 PM PDT
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: Happy2BMe
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posted on
04/26/2003 9:34:18 PM PDT
by
annyokie
To: annyokie
"Peter Arnett is no longer the pretty face at CNN, so we couldn't get an update from his stern rebuke to the strategists in Washington and London, delivered just as "les Anglo-Saxons" began their strike into the heart of Saddam Hussein's crumbling empire. "The first war plan has failed," Mr. Arnett told us on March 30. "Clearly the American war planners misjudged the determination of the Iraqi forces, and I personally do not understand how this happened because I've been here many times and in my commentaries on television I would tell the Americans about the determination of Iraqi forces."
eter Arnett, the longtime f--k UP!
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posted on
04/26/2003 9:37:13 PM PDT
by
Happy2BMe
(LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
To: So Cal Rocket
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posted on
04/26/2003 10:00:01 PM PDT
by
mrustow
(no tag)
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