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Stop the INS From Lying about The Second Amendment
Conservative Alerts ^

Posted on 04/26/2003 9:41:05 AM PDT by gitmo

According to "Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership" (www.jpfo.org), a teaching booklet put out by the INS is lying to immigrants about the Second Amendment.

Not Charles Schumer, not Sarah Brady... but the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) is actively teaching immigrants that "gun control" is part of our Constitution. The INS is lying, pure and simple. The INS' false statements cannot be counted as "mistakes" -- the Constitution is short enough that anyone can read it; the Bill of Rights is even shorter.

The document, entitled "United States Government Structure Study Guide for Civics Exam" (located online at www.ins.gov/graphics/services/natz/require.htm), states on page two:

"The Founding Fathers believed that the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness was very important. This right is the basis for all of the rights listed in the Constitution and its amendments.
These include:
* right to freedom of religion;
* right to freedom of speech;
* right to bear arms, or to own weapons (a special permit is required);
* right to a trial when accused of a crime, and to know of what crime one is accused; and,
* right to own property and to expect the government to help protect private property.

These are rights guaranteed by the Constitution to both citizens and non-citizens who live in the United States."

Never mind the grammatical error in the use of "right" in the first sentence -- there is absolutely no "special permit" requirement anywhere in the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Further on in the document, on page 5, it reads:
"Amendment 2
Guarantees the right to have weapons or own a gun, though subject to certain regulations. (Also called the right to bear arms.)"

There is no provision for "certain regulations" in the Second Amendment. The language of that Amendment says the people's right to keep and bear arms "shall not be infringed."

INS spokesperson Niki Edwards told CNSNews.com that the information contained in the study guide is devoted to teaching immigrants the "main principles" of the Constitution and should not be literally interpreted. A replacement for the current "study aid" is under consideration, Edwards noted.

These statements about the Second Amendment are false, and because they are knowing false statements, they are lies. The INS is propagandizing prospective new citizens to embrace "gun control" as a fundamental principle of our system.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; ins; jpfo; secondamendment
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I thought government indoctrination was being restricted to the government schools.
1 posted on 04/26/2003 9:41:06 AM PDT by gitmo
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To: gitmo
Sounds like a task for pro gun orgs such as the NRA et al.
2 posted on 04/26/2003 9:44:41 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: drypowder
So what has the NRA done besides go along with most of these illegal laws?
3 posted on 04/26/2003 9:47:42 AM PDT by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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To: drypowder
JPFO can handle it and they don't need the NRA.

Let JPFO get the booklets changed and they can declare a victory for their organization. The publicity may help their membership rolls.
4 posted on 04/26/2003 9:50:09 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: gitmo
government indoctrination was being restricted to the government schools.

Can't read, think or sppell taught @ government schools... :)

5 posted on 04/26/2003 9:52:50 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because your paranoid,doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. :)
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To: gitmo
No way..

I don't buy it.

6 posted on 04/26/2003 9:53:54 AM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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To: gitmo
It states the following on page 18 of the learning objectives hand out which is 107 pages long

2nd Amendment
Gives Americans the right to have weapons or the right to own a gun. (However, there are regulations about buying and keeping guns.)

What I am more worried about is their version of what the 1st Amendment means. It claims the following;

lst Amendment
Guarantees the rights of freedom of speech, press, religion, peaceable assembly, and requesting change of the government. It also states that church (any religion) and state (any part of the government) should be separate. These are some of the most important rights Americans have, and they are carefully enforced.

It is this kind of lie that I resent. I therefore suggest that each and every freeper review this and respond to any innaccuracies in it. It is linked here.

7 posted on 04/26/2003 10:01:15 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: gitmo
Nah. See, it's all about President Bush's War on Terror. Since he is going to do nothing about illegal aliens in this country, he's going to make it harder for the legal ones to arm themselves and call it a wash.
8 posted on 04/26/2003 10:09:48 AM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: gitmo
Here are some more lies being taught to immigrants:

From Page 2 of their Learning Objectives U.S. Government Structure found at this link!"

INHERENT RIGHTS
The principle of inherent rights was first written in the Declaration of Independence. The Founding Fathers believed that the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness was very important. This right is the basis for all of the rights listed in the Constitution and its amendments. These include:

• right to freedom of religion;
• right to freedom of speech;
• right to bear arms, or to own weapons (a special permit is required);
• right to a trial when accused of a crime, and to know of what crime one is accused; and,
• right to own property and to expect the government to help protect private property.
These are rights guaranteed by the Constitution to both citizens and non-citizens who live in the United States.

This is utter garbage. This MUST be addressed. There is NO SPECIAL PERMIT required for ANY right in the constitution. That is a conditioning lie being taught. PLEASE call or write these people. I am doing so. And I will send this to elected officials.

9 posted on 04/26/2003 10:10:42 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: ICE-FLYER
This is utter garbage. This MUST be addressed. There is NO SPECIAL PERMIT required for ANY right in the constitution. That is a conditioning lie being taught. PLEASE call or write these people. I am doing so. And I will send this to elected officials.

The site www.conservativealerts.com makes it easy to send mail and/or email to your congressmen. Key you zip and they supply the addresses.
10 posted on 04/26/2003 10:17:11 AM PDT by gitmo ("The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain." GWB)
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To: *bang_list
INS bang
11 posted on 04/26/2003 10:38:13 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: Khepera
I can guess the gun group you belong to.

Go ahead, tell me your gun group affiliation and I'll tell you if I'm right or not.
12 posted on 04/26/2003 10:50:57 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: gitmo
The INS has changed that information - somewhat. They deleted the referenced page, but have the document on line in PDF format at:

http://www.immigration.gov/graphics/services/natz/ushist.pdf

Page 18 of 107

Bill of Rights
The Bill of Rights that the delegates had promised to add to the Constitution was begun immediately, and finished by 1791. These 10 amendments are crucial in establishing the civil rights and liberties of all Americans. The amendments are described below.
....
2nd Amendment
Gives Americans the right to have weapons or the right to own a gun. (However, there are regulations about buying and keeping guns.)
....
http://www.immigration.gov/graphics/services/natz/ushist.pdf
13 posted on 04/26/2003 10:57:12 AM PDT by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: steplock
Regulations overrule the Constitution. At least we're teaching them reality.
14 posted on 04/26/2003 10:59:16 AM PDT by gitmo ("The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain." GWB)
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To: gitmo
Just more out of control, ever growing big government.

This government agenda cannot be any clearer.

The American people wont wake up......

15 posted on 04/26/2003 11:02:11 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: gitmo
Here's what it has to say about the 6th Amendment:
6th Amendment

This amendment says that if a person is charged with a crime he or she still has important rights, such as the right to a quick and public trial with a jury of his or her peers. If he or she cannot afford a lawyer, the state must provide one.

Compare this with the actual text of the 6th Amendment:
Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.


16 posted on 04/26/2003 11:08:26 AM PDT by Fixit
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To: ICE-FLYER
This is utter garbage. This MUST be addressed. There is NO SPECIAL PERMIT required for ANY right in the constitution. That is a conditioning lie being taught. PLEASE call or write these people. I am doing so. And I will send this to elected officials. ~ ICE-FLYER Woody.
17 posted on 04/26/2003 11:17:44 AM PDT by CCWoody
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To: gitmo
I find it strange they qualify the 2nd amendment, yet print nothing to qualify the 1st amendment.
18 posted on 04/26/2003 11:18:31 AM PDT by FirstTomato
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To: Fixit
Maybe it's not the US Constitution they're referring to.
19 posted on 04/26/2003 12:40:30 PM PDT by gitmo ("The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain." GWB)
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To: CCWoody
If you honestly think the Republican Party is as bad as the dems, check out what is going to happen in Minnesota on Monday.

There will be a live feed on the Senate fight concerning the CCW law.

The CCW laws aren't perfect but they are a step in the right direction after the dem party's policies against our Rights for the last forty years.
20 posted on 04/26/2003 12:42:40 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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