MORE ON THE SARS SCAM IN CANADA, CHINA, AUSTRALIA

No More Fake News ^ | 04/25/03 | Jon Rappoport

[theFIRMbss]

MORE ON THE SARS SCAM IN CANADA, CHINA, AUSTRALIA

April 25. Let's start here: the list of SARS symptoms is indistinguishable from the symptoms of ordinary pneumonias and flu.

That's right.

If you took two people---one who had been diagnosed with SARS and one who had some regular pneumonia or flu---you would not be able to eyeball the difference.

I know that people don't want to believe this, but they also don't want to believe that a stock they just bought is worthless junk that is heading into the toilet.

Sometimes you have to see the facts before the facts burn you.

Okay. Now, here are a few stats for Canada. The first is from the Canadian Institute for Health Information: "Overall, influenza/pneumonia is a major contributor to deaths and hospitalizations among the elderly. It is the leading cause of death from infectious disease in Canada."

This statement was made in 2001.

Here is the second stat, from Statistics Canada: In 1996, there were 7627 deaths from pneumonia and influenza in Canada.

So we could say right now that the leading cause of death from infectious disease in Canada is SARS---because one cannot tell the difference between the symptoms of influenza, regular pneumonia, and SARS.

But we would be better off saying that the clinical diagnosticians in Canada don't know what they're doing, can't make a positive diagnosis of SARS, and are shifting cases of traditional flu and pneumonia over into the new SARS category.

Now, people want to counteract these subversive comments by pointing out that SARS cases are only those people who have the new coronavirus.

However, this would be a lie. The Canadian researchers have already admitted that with even the most sensitive tests, they can only find evidence of the virus in 40 percent of the SARS cases.

And in those 40 percent, the amount of virus they are finding is so miniscule they don't know how it could be causing disease at all.

You may still be hanging back, not wanting to believe me. But if you had a cough and a light fever, and someone snatched you out of your office and put you in a compound on the premises and told you you had to stay there for a month and could receive no visitors, you might begin to change your mind.

In China, they are doing a lot worse than that.

I'm getting exclusive reports from a foreign contact in Beijing. Here is the latest. In the two major hospitals there that have been sealed off, even non-SARS patients cannot receive visitors. Medical personnel who live on the grounds of those hospitals---and many do---are virtual prisoners.

Two university dorms and their 500 residents have been sealed off. No one can leave.

Contradicting Western claims that there is no test for SARS yet, Chinese officials say they have one and are using it. They say they can run 10,000 blood samples a day. Who knows what kind of test this is or what it is actually measuring. Since the Canadians need a PCR procedure---which amplifies super-tiny gene fragments---to even detect the possible/maybe/could-be presence of the coronavirus, one must be suspicious of the Chinese test. It could be measuring antibodies to anything under the sun.

People are lining up at drugstores in Beijing to buy drugs that are hyped as prevention against SARS. Well, sure. They're hoping to suppress a future cough that might land them in a sealed off area under guard.

Pets are now being cited as possible carriers of SARS. This may lead to people tossing their dogs and cats out into the streets to fend for themselves.

The science-hysteria has reached a fever pitch in Hong Kong, where researchers claim there are now six versions of the SARS virus, and a person may recover from one only to get another.

Also in Hong Kong, newspapers are reporting that people who have no symptoms of any kind will be quarantined as...what? Carriers? Thirty families have already been sealed off under some such pretext.

Back on mainland China, in Canton, where hundreds of cases have been diagnosed, there was a major trade show last week. Hello? The government apparently doesn't really think the disease is that serious. Major corporate activity goes on. People fly in and out.

Moving on: Australian press sources confirm that in the Victoria province, police have been given the green light to forcibly detain SUSPECTED SARS cases. Ditto for Western Australia.

The Australia Herald Sun reports that Hong Kong doctors are now classifying some cases of organ failure as SARS. People who at first present with lung infections then develop organ failure=SARS. Well, that can happen with regular pneumonias too. Soon we may see people with kidney failure who never had lung infections classified as SARS---thus bringing into the fold new and artificially inflated case statistics. "Yes, he died of kidney failure, but he was coughing a little too, so let's call it SARS."

The Australians and possibly researchers from other countries will begin testing drugs against SARS. According to the Herald Sun, among these are "16 AIDS drugs, 13 herpes drugs, and seven drugs aimed at flu and other viruses."

The AIDS drugs will shred immune systems. They stop replication of all cells in the body. They are basically chemo compounds. So more people will get sick, that will be called a SARS complication, and there will be deaths. These death stats "from SARS" will escalate, thus painting a more grim picture of the "disease."

One aspect of this whole global scam is the number of deaths occurring in hospitals. Patients and doctors and nurses. As you might already know, hospitals are great places for catching diseases. In this regard, a Reuters dispatch of April 23, passing unnoticed, is quite important:

A new study out of the University of Arkansas shows the health danger of mold that gets into hospital water supplies: "An important cause of illness and death in patients with weakened immune systems."

"70 percent of the 368 water samples that were obtained" contained molds.

The study is published in the journal Blood. 2003;101:2542-2546.

The implications of this study are rather awesome. Patients in hospitals for any reason, patients whose immune systems are suppressed for any reason (including the drugs they are being given) are at risk for more serious illness and death because of mold.

And if you have ever seen anyone with a mold infection, you know you may see a cough and respiratory involvement.

"Let's call it SARS."

What are the mold conditions in hospitals in China, Hong Kong, Australia, Canada?

Hospitals, rather than being places where patients are treated, can become self-fulfilling prophecies for inflated SARS statistics.

It would be like having a microscope you use to analyze blood. You don't realize that this particular microscope is shedding particles on to the slide and those particles are toxic to people who are immune-compromised. So you say, "Wow, I'm seeing disease particles that show this person with this blood sample is sick." You think the microscope is helping to diagnose, but it is spreading disease. That would be a rough analogy to a hospital that is treating illness but is actually a fertile soup that is causing it.

And finally, from Taiwan, I'm reading reports that airline passengers who get off planes are required to have their temperatures taken. If they refuse, they can be hauled off and also fined 60,000 Taiwanese dollars.

Oral or rectal?

This whole deal is rectal, baby.

JON RAPPOPORT

[theFIRMbss]

"Jon Rappoport has worked as a free-lance investigative reporter for 20 years. He has written articles on politics, health, media, culture and art for LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, Village Voice, Nexus, CBS Healthwatch, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. In 1982, the LA Weekly submitted his name for a Pulitzer prize, for his interview with the president of El Salvador University, where the military had taken over the campus. Jon has hosted, produced, and written radio programs and segments in Los Angeles and Las Vegas (KPFK, KLAV). He has appeared as a guest on over 200 radio and television programs, including ABC's Nightline, Tony Brown's Journal (PBS), and Hard Copy. ..."

Back in the days when
MotherAbigal ran threads
about this "new" thing

called SARS, I started
to believe the worst. My posts
in the daily threads

were among the first
to worry about how high
the death count might get

if the case count kept
almost doubling every week.
But then I began

to see elements
of kook-iness start to show.
People put up links

from wacky, new age
websites. And the whole panic
started to look like,

to my eyes, other
panics -- Y2K, Klinton,
that whole kind of thing.

Now, don't get me wrong --
I am still worried. But now
I'm starting to think

the real issue might
not be people catching cold,
but might be global

health "authorities"
who now have the global might
to impose things like

travel quarantines
on cities across the globe,
and governments now

that can quarantine
citizens for nothing more
than coughing too hard.

Yes, this might be bad.
It might, in fact, be much worse
than "health" people think...

[theFIRMbss]

Let me clarify
this. I, theFIRMbss,
ain't Jon Rappoport.

I included his
bio for those who don't know
him. But it looks like

my comment is right
below his picture and that's
mis-leading. Sorry.

The writing is his,
the commentary is mine.
I posted badly.

[theFIRMbss]

ping

[Cachelot]

Is this the same Jon Rappoport that claims that the Jews are ruling the world through the Vatican?

*snicker*

[Dog Gone]

I am also concerned about the power of the World Health Organization, and I certainly don't want to see this situation being used as pretext to give them the authority to quarantine cities or countries. No UN agency should be given any authority to impose anything.

Having said that, this guy has his head up his butt. Nobody with ordinary pneumonia infects health care workers who are taking extraordinary precautions. And otherwise healthy people, like the 44 year old man in Toronto yesterday, don't die of pneumonia. SARS is real, and the fact that we don't know everything about it yet is not a justification for going into total denial.

[per loin]

Is this the same Jon Rappoport that claims that the Jews are ruling the world through the Vatican?

Yes, the same one.

[ladyjane]

It may be a scam but it is having a huge (hugh?) economic impact and will continue to do so. Think I am exaggerating? Imagine this: You are a retailer and you get 90+% of your goods from over there. Your buyers refuse to go to Hong Kong and you don't want to send them. No one is in their offices in Hong Kong, they're trying to work from home. Production is down and the goods available to buy are limited. You need to stock your shelves for the 'back-to-school' and Christmas season. If you think there is no impact just wait till you try to change your windshield wiper blades two months from now.

[Celtjew Libertarian]

On one hand, SARS could be overblown. On the other hand, the influenza pandemic of 1918 didn't look that much different from regular flu and pneumonia either, at first, but it killed 20-40 million worldwide, including a half to three-quarter million in the U.S., with death rates for 15 to 34 increasing on the order of 20 times.

I doubt SARS will be even close to that bad, but to say it's nothing major because it looks just like flu or pneumonia to a eyeball judgement is just plain silly.

[Siegfried]

I am also concerned about the power of the World Health Organization,

This guy has some ideas that have to be considered, I think. But there is one little disconnect in this theory... what does the WHO have to gain by flexing this power? Is it just a test of their ability to whip up the public and the medical profession into a frenzy of hypochondria, in case they might need that ability in the future?

In Africa they routinely label anyone who dies of anything as being an AIDs related death. That's because most "hospitals" and clinics in Africa have no ability to definitively test for AIDs. But, more importantly, they get more money for their hospitals and for their governments if they inflate their AIDs numbers.

So what would the the WHO and these countries be gaining by calling every ordinary flu and pneumonia related death a SARS death? I just don't see the advantage.

Now, the news media have a very strong reason for whipping the public into a frenzy. And I DO blame them for part of this situation. I'm still waiting for the day when the news media cease to be the carnival barkers they have been for decades and become the teachers they keep promising to be.

[Petronski]

... to see elements of kookiness start to show....

Elements of kookiness?

You post everything in haikus and yet you have the temerity to complain about kookiness?

[Dog Gone]

You might be interested in this article.

[Domestic Church]

When my family had the flu 2 years ago we were very, very sick but we survived with over the counter medicines. If our family gets SARS, I would guess the two youngest might survive but the rest will die. Our oldest child already had atypical pneumonia last fall and almost died but she had the best medical care in the world and parents who have some medical and scientific background.

In a full blown pandemic, there won't be medical care as we know it today. It won't matter if you graduated first in your class at Harvard or Oxford or you are the short order cook at the diner down the street. It also won't matter whether this thing is a natural phenomena or man made. It is possible to contain this nasty bug but denial isn't the best modus operandi.

[Domestic Church]

Thanks for fleshing out this idiotic Jon Rappoport.

[Domestic Church]

"You need to stock your shelves for the 'back-to-school"

I expect this fall will be a cyber-school bonanza.

[S.O.S121.500]

Ping thing ......

[blam]

"If you think there is no impact just wait till you try to change your windshield wiper blades two months from now."

It never crossed my mind to put windshield wiper blades in my survival kit. Off to the parts store. <>

[lainie]

Silicon valley pushes technology to cope with SARS

I think you might be on to something.

[headsonpikes]

"...what does the WHO have to gain by flexing this power?"

Posted by a person who is apparently unaware of the events of the 20th Century.

I've forgotten the odd boozy evening in my life, but a whole Cenury?!?

A lot of stuff happened in the 20th C., and not to give away the whole story, but the exercise of power turns out to be its own reward.

You could look it up.

[theFIRMbss]

>You post everything in haikus and yet you have the temerity to complain about kookiness?

[laughs] Well, some people
speak with a lisp, some speak with
a British accent...

That doesn't affect
what they're saying. I happen
to speak in haikus...

(Oh, and anyone
who doubted the kook-content
of SARS topic threads

needs only look to
posts number 4 and 7
of this very thread.

Notice that neither
poster included a link
in their kooky posts...)