[Joe Hadenuf]

You could be right, and looking at the last presidential elections, your scenario could fit the entire country at some point in the future....Look no further that the dozens of states now operation in the red.....

[oceanview]

well yes, when that happens, its over essentially for this democracy. And we are indeed right on the edge. but for now, we can win if we can cluster the parasites into some "core" states, and get our own people out of those states. look, I am facing the same decision point, possibly leaving NY for Florida someday if we reach the point of no return here. its not a good feeling, but what can you do?